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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 154 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Love how this is portrayed as a bad thing lmao

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 months ago

Exactly, the author was like "How dare they not both sides this."

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was a difficult read cause of how biased it is

[–] freepizzaforlife@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

The author is a senior defense analyst at the fucking Rand corporation; there’s no way this wasn’t going to be anything BUT biased

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 103 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The west is really looking bad when South Africa and China are outshining them on this issue.

[–] livus@kbin.social 57 points 6 months ago (5 children)

South Africa's a democracy with a history of opposing Israeli apartheid.

It's really not surprising that it's taking the lead on this.

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[–] blackberry@lemmy.ml 55 points 6 months ago (16 children)

As a Chinese person, when I was very young, I learned from books that "the Jewish people are a wise people; they put honey on books to let children know that knowledge is sweet." Before I went to university at 18, I believed that Jews were very smart, like Einstein. All my knowledge came from books. After I started university, I got my first mobile phone, and then I started accessing the internet. This led to a collapse of my worldview, as some things I had firmly believed in began to be questioned by myself. My perception of Jews was just one of many aspects that changed.

Chinese people do not discriminate against Jews. As I experienced, due to widespread propaganda, Jews have a generally positive and subtle reputation in China. The situation is more like a backlash caused by a mismatch between the promotional image and the actual product. Previously, Jews were portrayed as very wise and polite, but when the reality turned out to be different, people felt deceived, which led to what the article calls "anti-Semitism." However, in fact, on the Chinese internet, people are just bringing up the wrongdoings that some Jews have done.

Among Jews, there are both good and bad people. I support Jewish Voice for Peace and believe that a wandering people should not be discriminated against anywhere. However, Zionists want to hijack all Jews, using the concentration camps from World War II as an emotional card to coerce everyone onto their bandwagon. When the actions of Israel in Gaza reach China, almost all Chinese people are reminded of the atrocities committed by Japanese fascists in China, treating Chinese people like livestock for slaughter. The suffering of the Palestinians makes us empathize deeply. When their homes are destroyed and their relatives killed, it is reminiscent of our past. I saw a group of Israelis holding hands and dancing in front of UN emergency relief supplies to block the aid. It tore my heart apart. I don't know what to say, I can only say that the Palestinians are incredibly enduring. If it were me and most Chinese people, we simply couldn't endure it.

China has never oppressed or persecuted Jews. China even sheltered Jews in Shanghai, and the current Prime Minister of Israel has praised this. But ironically, it seems that now China still does not compare to Germany in the eyes of Israel.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Israel claims to be a secular state but also a state for Jews but also Palestinians are welcome but also Palestinians are not allowed to get an Israeli passport but also they can get a passport if they are Jewish.

Israel the quantum physics of countries. In a superposition until whatever is convenient needs to be observed.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

And also, even if they are a Jewish Palestinian they can still be murdered with absolute impunity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_David_Ben_Avraham

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

…however Zionists want to hijack all Jews…

It seems pretty clear that they understand this. It looks like there’s just a little bit of a language barrier here, is all.

[–] blackberry@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago

Indeed, I did not intend to equate Israel with all Jewish people or make it representative of Judaism as a whole. If it came across that way, I apologize. Labeling all peace-loving individuals with the actions of those who engage in war due to their ethnicity is similar to the wrongdoings of Germany in the past. Such thinking is almost nonexistent in China. As Mao once said, "Make as many friends as possible and as few enemies as possible." 😆

[–] firewood010@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Israel is a country and Jews' a racial group.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jew is a religion. Ashkenazi, Sefardi, Mizrahi are racial groups perhaps.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jews are also considered an ethnicity, not only a religion. There are nonreligious ethnic Jews and there are people who follow Judaism but who are not ethnic Jews.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't consider "Jew" an ethnicity more than "Asian" -- several different ethnicities under one label.

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[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 38 points 6 months ago

I like how this zionist author is trying to draw parallels between the Palestinian resistance and the separatist group the US created in Xinjiang through Afganistan lmao

Claiming both are "Islamist terrorism", which is an ironic thing to say considering israel's support of their fellow US proxy

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Common China W

Now fund the PFLP like the USSR used to

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They won't, not now anyway. The Soviet Union went as far as to fund wars against "israel", but China is clearly far more interested in Socialism In One Country and forming amicable ties with the rest of the world — including the capitalist shitstates — rather than spreading socialism like the USSR did.

Not necessarily a bad thing since I understand where they're coming from (and we know which of the two have managed to prevent a capitalist counter-revolution), but god I wish they did a bit more sometimes.

Genuinely aggressive Chinese sanctions on "israel" would cripple it in months combined with Palestinian resistance, but it also would create hostility with the US, signal to the Global South that they're willing to sanction states that don't do what China wants like the US does, and damage their reputation of being a peaceful superpower that they've been building for the last few decades.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 months ago
[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

China is smarter than the US

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 6 months ago
[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh, no.

Anyway...

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

Well, they're best buds with Russia now ...

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