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US support for abortion rights up four points to 60% since fall of Roe v Wade
(www.theguardian.com)
I hope this translates to the voting polls.
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Several states, including Florida, are putting state constitution enshrinement of abortion rights on the November ballot. It’s going to come down to communication and awareness for most.
That’s not how the law works. The Florida Supreme Court is the highest court in the state. They allowed the ban under the provision that constitutional enshrinement is put to a vote. The results of that vote in November will determine abortion rights for the state of Florida.
I agree with the rest of your sentiment. The only thing that will kill the GOP in its current state is lack of power. That would require people to band together and consistently vote Democrat, whether they like the candidate or not. That would force Republicans to adopt more liberal/libertarian policies in order to capture more of the vote.
Florida Republicans already have hinted to a new Fetal Personhood bill if the abortion amendment passes to upend the election results.
They have experience doing this. They have other sets of bills to dilute the marihuana amendment too.
It would have to get passed by the Florida Supreme Court.
Does that really sound like a big hurdle? Or more like... Stepping over a small twig?
Edit: to be clear here, they are selected by a commission that the governor creates, which makes a recommendation list to the governor to select from. Of the 7 justices, 5 of them became justices during Desantis' time as governor.
They’re the ones that left it up to an election by determining it should be a decision of the people. Walking back on that is now tougher than changing court decided legislation.
So not tough at all, considering recent complete 180's on precedence based on whether it suits their agenda.
Sounds about right.
It's hard to believe the Fl supreme Court has any ethics. Considering what they've pushed through with education, diversity training, etc., etc.
The 5 that came in through DeSantis are all heavily conservative. One of whom is married to a representative who wrote the bill for the 6 week ban, and refused to recuse himself. Not to mention having put forth his own anti-choice bans (mostly nonsensical partial birth abortion bans, which isn't a thing) in the 90's.
Another one has a husband elected to the oversight board for Disney.
I really think you're overestimating their ethics and underestimating the lengths they will go.
Edit: autocorrect typo, refuse/recuse.
What is the penalty of a Supreme Court directly overruling precedent?
Answer: there isn't one
Ohio is trying to do that right now after they enshrined abortion. The OGOP have fought tooth and nail to change the wording of something that has already passed and should already be law (but it’s not cuz…GOP)
The only thing that will kill the GOP in its current state is lack of power. That would require people to band together and consistently vote Democrat, whether they like the candidate or not. That would force Republicans to adopt more liberal/libertarian policies in order to capture more of the vote.
If power is the only thing that influences the GOP (which is true) then why would they acquiesce to election results?
They don't care about the rule of law, except when they can use it as a sword to advance their agenda. So why would outvoting them change anything?
Putin cannot be removed from power in Russia by an election, even if he were to somehow lose an election. This is because Putin has a monopoly on power and will not give that up merely because of election results. Why would we expect the GOP to behave any differently?
In the past messaging on this has been so poor on this topic. To the point where people don’t even really understand how common a medical abortion is, or that they’re now essentially illegal, risk factors from being denied care due to these laws, etc. They’ve let the gop take the baby killer ball and run with it for years. So now we’ve got a lot of ground to make up educationally…are bare minimum. And I think once we get to that place support will be near universal.
Absolutely, and it goes even further than that. Practitioners in related fields, for ethical or monetary reasons, have been relocating to states where abortion is legal. It’s simply devastating for women’s reproductive health overall.
It will take be a massive undertaking considering how much misinformation is out there.
Nowhere in the Bible does "God" speak against abortions. In fact it supports it. Numbers 5:19-22 When civil rights became an issue in the 60's, that is when abortion became an issue.
The religious right seized on the revocation of 501(c)(3) status for private schools that discriminate based on race as their initial cause. That plus white flight allowed the southern states to maintain segregation in schools. It culminated in the Bob Jones University vs United States case in the Supreme Court. They didn’t say a thing about abortion until the late ‘70s.
Massive reason I don't support Bill Gates foundation with all the billionaires promising their money there. You know there is a darker reason and they are buying good press for now.
Fuck all religious groups. Pay your fuckong taxes like the billionaires. You books even say to pay them. Not you satanic church, you are really doing God's work.
It's disgusting it's only 60%.