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For those that don't know, there is a sister community over on fanaticus.social/c/cfb that was also relatively empty in the first wave of users and as such we consolidated here as there were a few more active users. However given juan seems to be a phantom and the mods over there are active should we switch community posts back over there? They have a small mod team that's active again and based on yesterday they seem to be willing to put some work into shaping the community. Again as this is the fediverse it doesn't really matter since you can very easily sub to both but since we're small I imagine a little bit of cohesiveness will help things like the c/cfb poll and weekly threads. Discuss

Edit: per discussion I will be moving my posts to !cfb@fanaticus.social (also !cfbmemes@lemmy.world) and cross posting them here for visibility

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[–] ToasterOverlord@fanaticus.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey all, I'm from the Fanaticus instance. Not going to try to persuade anyone to switch, just wanted to offer my thoughts:

I see advantages to both communities. The fact that there is a cfb community here on the "default" instance, so to speak, means it will probably be found by newbies to the fediverse. On the other hand, if it's inactive or if lemmy.world is down (which was the case when I migrated to Lemmy), I don't know how good user retention will be. What I like about the Fanaticus instance is because it's only sports, threads are less likely to get downvoted or passed over by non-sports folks (which, let's be frank, is the majority of Lemmy users). Plus, team communities can all be in one place.

It would be nice if both communities could coexist and grow. As you've noted, that requires active mods. I definitely plan to be active on Fanaticus daily, but I can't speak for anyone else. I'm also open to cross-posting content to this instance. That works for news and even OC, but I agree it would be ideal to settle on one place for discussions (e.g. game threads and polls). Because I only found this community recently, I'm fine with submitting my poll to whichever instance can reach a bigger audience.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

2 things there. I wouldn't be surprised if in a decade we've got the user base to have one of the two be casual and one of them much more serious and I think that's the ideal growth pattern in the fediverse (smaller, more targeted communities, with a "central" hub). But for now like you said for the sake of discussion we probably want "one" community. 2nd point: I think a cfb community on this instance would be great as a landing zone, if our mod was active and could put other links in the sidebar. But as of now that doesn't seem likely.

[–] pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would be fine shifting to !cfb@fanaticus.social. As you said, we are already pretty small... so being spread out would be a bad idea. If we can concentrate on one community and build momentum, I would be all for that.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So here we're something like 800 strong but with an inactive mod. While fanaticus.social only has like 300 users I think the draw is their mods put together game threads and stuff so we wouldn't have to self organize that. We'll see what some more responses say but I too am fine shifting to fanaticus

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IIRC, you only see local subs from any given instance's landing page for a community. For instance, their own page currently shows 321 subs, but on lemmy.world's page I see 104. I believe these are additive.

Anyway, I don't completely love the high volume of low-engagement posts on fanaticus (glancing, it seems somewhat better now?), but I can see a lot of benefits from centralizing_somewhere_, hence my earlier bailing on kbin.social's cfb magazine. Then, startrek.website is a good example of a dedicated fan instance with active moderation fostering a lot of commenting. Commenting is the only real reason to partake in sports social media, IMHO; the scores and news are better found in tweets (but not the replies, oh god not the replies) or any random broadcaster's sports site.

So, if we're going, let's go. a few crossposts per week to keep the lights on here ought to be enough to funnel new sickos over to wherever our little fungus spore latches on and starts growing.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm planning on posting the poll over there and then crossposting here (Maybe trashtalk? that had some traction). Outside of that I'm really just looking for game threads. And as evidenced by umass v jmu, I'm more than willing to shout into the void myself. I'm just trying to figure out what the best net to cast is in order to find more users that will make me seem a little less crazy

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !cfb@fanaticus.social

[–] orangeNgreen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I subscribe to both. But I’m also a mod over at !miamihurricanes@fanaticus.social. So I tend to do more of my posting on the fanaticus.social sport communities, including Cfb. So, I would be good with the shift.

[–] utiandtheblowfish@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think we should close one and link to the other. This is one of the major things I dislike about the feeiverse. Small communities like this can’t handle being segmented the way a news or memes community can.

Tell me where to go and I’m there.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think the biggest thing is that neither lemmy.world nor kbin.social has a real mod. Both have (hopefully well-meaning) comm squatters and very busy admins. The Fanaticus people are maybe a little overambitious about how many recruiting tweets we need, but they seem eager to build a community of sports fans, and so as long as they don't shit it up too much, it could be like a flame to us moths.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

fwiw, I think I'll be posting at fanaticus and crossposting here for visibility

[–] Manibusan@fanaticus.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As the founder and main mod of /c/cfb@fanaticus.social, if anyone here wants to be a mod over there just let me know. I’m not sure if the Lemmy.world users know this but our instance was blocked for about three-four weeks by the Lemmy.world admins which is why users on this instance were unable to see our posts for awhile. Our main admin was able to get this resolved so we are federated again (thankfully). I also have over a hundred individual team communities that need mods so please feel free to ask to take over those communities!

I'm trying to work on adding a CFB bot to the existing redball bots (https://github.com/benja810/redball/tree/lemmy-nfl) so if anyone is familiar with CFB API and is willing to help us out, let me know. I hope to see everyone over there and I will keep coming over here as well to see what’s going on!

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't mind helping out there. Just let me know what you need. I have a bit of a Python dev background as well, so I can at least try and help with bots.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Hey, I have always appreciated the ambition at fanaticus, but kind of wondered if it didn't have the unintended consequence of making the place look a bit vast-yet-desolate. That said, we're obviously starting to run up against absentee mods and limited coding skills on our general interest instances, and engaged mods and admin would be nice. I'd be more than happy to see if it can work to drive the communication there. I reckon it's more or less how lemmy was designed to work best anyway.

Tell me, good sir, have y'all had any luck figuring out a semi-scalable flair solution? Right now, kludges with scripts and just recognizing names is still mostly working, but even the modest game threads were showing some cracks in that.