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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Vermont and New Hampshire have exchanged places! Who knew?

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Vermont even looks like a V!

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Yes, a much improved alignment!

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The footnote about "totally removed" is a little odd because I think some/many of these states has state recognized tribes.

Which I think mostly means either the tribes just refused to ever sign a treaty with the federal government, or just kind of reassembled after the bulk of their tribe was driven off the original land.

Virginia, North and South Carolina, and Georgia, for example, all have state recognized tribes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-recognized_tribes_in_the_United_States

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Which I think mostly means either the tribes just refused to ever sign a treaty with the federal government

In Georgia, it was the opposite: the Muscogee — or at least, an asshole tribal leader purporting to represent them — did sign a treaty. He got almost immediately executed for selling out his people and the legitimate leaders sent a delegation to DC to repudiate it, but it was too late and the tribe eventually lost all its land anyway.

[–] Twitches@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

Even the native Americans/ Indians didn't want to live in Missouri lol

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I thought we didn't say Indian anymore?

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

They decided to keep the name "Indian" because when white people decided to start calling them "native Americans". They decided that they weren't going to let white people dictate what their name was a second time.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

The Bureau of Indian Affairs still exists.

https://www.bia.gov/

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Some prefer Native American others prefer Indian. Most seem to prefer referring to their specific tribe if you aren't speaking about all Indian tribes. The import part is to use neither as a negative term.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

White people said it’s racist to call Indians Indians, but Indians said they don’t want to be called ‘Native Americans’, so we call them Indians again.

By „we” I mean you. To Germans they’ve always been Indians.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

was Abya Yala the noncolonial name of the continent?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Nothing in Hawaii? I thought there was an entire island that only allows tribals

Edit: Wikipedia article had a lot more recent history than I remember noticing - Bill Clinton signed an apology for overthrowing the Kingdom. It looks like they needed self-governance to be a tribe but that was blocked by Supreme Court as racist - I may be misunderstanding

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Now show me another one with number of tribes gone over the last five hundred years.

I bet the numbers are bigger but I'm too alien to prove it

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Damn. My state has the second most and I still never see any Native American people outside of TV. I've been to 3 of their casinos, too!