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Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x07 "Erigah" (startrek.website)
submitted 6 months ago by ValueSubtracted@startrek.website to c/startrek@startrek.website
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LoglineWith Moll and L’ak finally in custody, the Federation is pulled into a diplomatic and ethical firestorm when the Breen arrive and demand they be handed over. Meanwhile, a frustrated Book looks for ways to help as Tilly, Adira, and Reno work to decipher the latest clue.

Written by: M. Raven Metzner

Directed by: Jon Dudkowski

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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Okay, I was certain for a quite a while that L'ak's death was a fakeout...up to a certain point. L'ak said Moll wasn't going to like his plan, which made me think that dying, or appearing to die, was part of it.

But...that was before a Breen medic showed up to help - they should be a lot harder to fool than Culber, who has only a rudimentary understanding of Breen physiology. And the episode certainly framed it as real. And they've dangled a possible motivation for Moll, in a desire to use the Progenitor technology to revive him.

And yet something still screams "bluff" to me. Thoughts?

Edit: also...SEVEN OF LIMES

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really think they just overplayed their hand, and he really did overdose by accident - or because he thought it was the only way for Moll to get away. I don't believe either of them are basing a strategem on the Progenitor tech actually being able to resurrect him, but Moll is desperate now, so she's willing to believe it might work because it's the only hope she has left.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 6 months ago

They have gone out of their way to portray L'ak as a doofus (and writer Carlos Cisco even gave an interview where he suggested that Breen are dumber in their fleshy form), so you may be right.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seven Of Limes? Star Trek Legacy confirmed!

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 10 points 6 months ago

It's definitely a a nice nod to the character. If bar patrons 600 years later still get the reference, that speaks well of her lasting influence on the Federation.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what Culber will think of bringing more people back from the dead other than himself.

Maybe using it to revive L'ak will exhaust the progenitor tech, so they can totally neatly wrap up this season's McGuffin.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah...Culber had a pretty tough go of it when he went through it. I could see his feelings on it being...complicated.

[–] Electricorchestra@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Whenever Culber is on screen I turn to my partner and say he's died. More often than not it comes up.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

That’s what I thought was happening as well. The camera cutting back and forth between their expressions is what convinced me as well.

[–] minimalfootprint@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 months ago

Discovery had its ups and downs for me over the seasons. The Progenitor tech. Breen. Both interesting. Moll and L'ak and the forced connection to Book ruin it for me. I get annoyed every time Moll opens her mouth.

I enjoy shows that add personal connections into their story, but Discovery is excessive and misses quite a lot.

[–] Stormygeddon@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago

It is the 31st Millennium. For centuries the L'ak Emperor of Breenkind has sat immobile on the silver throne. He is master of Breenkind by the will of of the gods and master of a million worlds by the might of His inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the progenitor age of technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the vast Imperium of Breen for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day so that he may never truly die...

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago

Annotations for 5x07 up at: https://startrek.website/post/10059705

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I finally caught up so I can read these messages, I'm happy :-).

I watched all 7 episodes in a few days. So far, I liked this season very much, it's kind of sad to know it's the last season when they finally found their voice. Burnham is quite sufferable finally (even if they had to make her linked to the antagonists… at least it's indirectly) and the rest of the crew receive some light. Moll and L'ak are interesting and rich. I love to see more Breen. And reflections on spirituality touch me personally, it's refreshing to see Star Trek treating this subject more deeply than “religion is bad duh” (or with “akoocheemoya”s).

Now I have work to catch up 😅.