As someone who just switched to an Xperia as it's one of the few phones that still has a headphone jack, NFC, and microSD slot, this sucks. The software support is the biggest problem IMO because the rest is great.
this post was submitted on 09 May 2024
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And it wasn't a proprietary storage card? They didn't invent their own headphone jack that only works with Sony headphones? Amazing. It's like a whole new company!
If you can't tell, I'm still salty about aaaaaallllllllllllllllll the shit they pulled in the 90s/00s. Nothing like buying an mp3 player with money I should've been spending more responsibly and then learning I could only use Sony brand storage cards. Cards that cost twice as much for the same storage space. I bought my Xbox and dropped PlayStation solely because of those shenanigans.
If, in twenty years, HP makes the only computer that doesn't give you literal AIDS I still won't buy one. And i feel the same about Sony today
oh god remember MiniDisc? having to use Vegas Pro to burn the fuckers.
member the rootkits? I member.
member digital cameras being 4 megapixel and that was amazing?
member Nokias being bullet proof?
member Nextel push to talk?
member downloading albums on limewire using the coffee shop's Wi-Fi across the street, cobbling together a Can-tenna using a coke can cut up with a utility knife for a better signal?
member waiting for Penny Arcade to load like one line at a time because everyone was using the free Wi-Fi from the coffee shop?
member file sharing using mp3 discs with everyone on your floor?
i member
You're lucky it played mp3s and not atrac or some shit.
Dude I went straight back to J&R on Park Row and returned that thing. I had SD cards from my camera that I planned to use, and didn't ask about storage at the store (mistakes of youth lol). I eventually got a Zen (30Gb!) a year or two later. What a tank!
Sony is shifty with their PlayStation practices but their phones are genuinely good - seems like they are closer with the camera part of the business, which is pretty well liked from what I understand. The software support (or lack of) is the main issue but the hardware is clearly made by people that care (although apparently not enough about overheating on the IV series).
My institutional memories prevent me from buying Sony
When the PS4 came out and my old friends were clamoring over it i thought, "In 2003, we swore 'never again'. In 2013, we broke that promise."
But i NEVER DID
Yeah, I had that with Sony, Apple, Microsoft, Google, Samsung.
A couple years ago, I decided not to cut my nose off to spite my face and evaluate the products and hope some shenanigans root kit doesn't happen after i've purchased it
I think im paraphrasing the author Iain Banks here, I feel like a piece of sweet corn in a turd, technically I'm intact but I'm still surrounded by shit.
On the plus side it pushed me to Linux as my desktop OS.
TBH I didn't feel that strongly, but I could not resist channeling BLM
That analogy works for many things these days
headphone jack, NFC, and microSD
The holy trinity.
I need to move on from my LG (RIP) G6 soon due to battery life and apps becoming unsupported so I've been shopping around.
Right now I have a headphone jack, NFC, MicroSD, FM Radio and 4k video recording. I'll probably have to give up the radio at least if not more to get a well rounded phone.
The G6 came out 7 years ago but it feels like most new phones are a downgrade in comparsion.
I miss my G6 a lot - easily the phone I was most happy with. Sadly, mine had battery issues years ago.
Why do I love the phones of (potentially) soon to be dying (phone divisions of) companies? I should ask a therapist.
My Nokia XR20 has all three (and NFC), that and it being a "tough phone" were the attraction at the time, as it double times as the GPS on my bicycle and track logging hikes etc
I am not sure if the newer XR21 kept them?.
NFC is on like every phone ever for google pay
Some Asian markets don't use it, so there are some exceptions. This becomes important when the other requirements filter it down so much (but this was more of a problem a few years ago).
The headphone port is one of the reasons I'm considering an Xperia next. My Pixel 4a battery life is feeling pretty rough.
headphone jack, NFC, and microSD
My Moto Power G7 has all of those & a week long battery life.
I had several Xperias before switching to Pixel. It was the lack of updates that did it for me. Offer 7 years of updates in a repairable package and I'll buy an Xperia again. At this point the only two trains that look acceptable with their own pros and cons are Pixel and Fairphone.
I recently ordered a display and a battery for my Fairphone 4. Replacement took me about 10 minutes. She's still humming on /e/OS!
I keep hearing about /e/OS, I might give it a try! How is it for the banking apps, does it work as standard Android, or is there any issue?
No issues here, I use it for banking almost daily.
Sony will do the bare minimum that they are forced to. So 5 years due to the EU. Repairability idk about that. Parts are hard to source outside of Asia for Xperia phones.
5 years? That must be new. π₯Ή
I don't think Sony had said they will do that though.
Just as likely they will pull their phone from Europe lol
I hope they can find their footing again, I've always liked Sonys phone designs. I still miss my old Xperia Z, one of the early phones to the waterproofing game iirc. Certainly my first waterproof phone, loved taking it into the shower lmao. Then T-Mobile stopped carrying Sony phones :(
What were you doing with your phone in the showβ
... Nevermind. π«
Honestly though lol, taking your phone into the shower has to be a new level from my perspective. I bring it almost everywhere in my pocket, even on the toilet as most do. But I've never felt the need to bring it into the shower. Am I the odd one? I feel like there's gotta be a limit to my addiction... 10 minutes while I'm cleaning myself should be a good break lol.
You could clean one very specific part of you for a few minutes with some nature documentaries playing in the background is what they're saying.
I guess I'm past the point where I would do that in the shower, these days. π€·ββοΈ
The naming scheme doesn't help also
I had a few Xperia phones before I switched to pixel
I remember the display and camera being phenomenal and then the battery life still lasting over a day.
Great phones hampered by rubbish update support after the first year or so (back then)
I ran an xz1 compact for YEARS. probably still would be if my replacement screen hadn't kept popping back off. It was literally the perfect size phone. Big enough to watch yt videos on but it actually fit in your pocket!
Site just doesn't work with ad blocker lol. Can't read past the first paragraph or so...
Sony Phones... by the way, I think big part of development still is in Sweden (can someone corroborate?). can be saved.. Sony has this evil nature with overreaching copyright protections but Sony Xperias has been remarkable independent on Sony's appalling reputation.
Most point on the overprice problem... true. For what we get, outstanding optics (but many have them too now), a headphone jack and the best fingerprint sensor placement won't cut it anymore. For that is overpriced!
Now, Xperias, do this (and wont require any more $$$):
- Let Sony Xperias offer more support for open is phones to alternative OS (GrapheneOS, /e/, SailfishOS and the like) than just opening its bootloader. Best yet, partner with one of them!!
- Stay in the 6in format... or better yet, 5.6-5.8in. There is a silent outcry for smaller phones for years! Don't fall for what trials testimonies people say,,, let that to Samsung. Go with your guts!
- Maintain the jack, microSD, NFC, notification LED, no notch, side fingerprint scanner and angled format.
Millions won't mind to pay a premium for that, now, truly distinguished, phone that one can feel proud owning it and... well displaying it out there too.
Proud owner of 5 Xperias since Nokia's 808 but, since 2022 with 2 Pixels with GrapheneOS whose hardware I hate to death but with no viable alternative left.
I would have assumed that it wasn't in Sweden since like 2012 when Sony bought it Ericsson, but it looks like Sony Mobile ab got rolled into Sony Nordic a couple years ago. So they actually may still be designed in Sweden.
Sony only have themselves to blame for the collapse of their mobile division. Everyone and their dog has been saying for years that Xperia phones are too expensive and lack innovation.
They gave up support in multiple countries while charging way more than Korean and Chinese manufacturers. They would have been out if Huawei didn't get into cross hairs of American politics.