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The National Science Foundation, the federal agency that oversees the U.S. Antarctic Program, published a report in 2022 in which 59% of women said they’d experienced harassment or assault while on the ice, and 72% of women said such behavior was a problem in Antarctica.

But the problem goes beyond the harassment, The Associated Press found. In reviewing court records and internal communications, and in interviews with more than a dozen current and former employees, the AP uncovered a pattern of women who said their claims of harassment or assault were minimized by their employers, often leading to them or others being put in further danger.

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[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 129 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Lol and people want to talk about Mars missions.

We are so fucked.

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[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 113 points 1 year ago

Buckingham was hired by PAE. Amentum didn’t respond to questions from the AP. Leidos Senior Vice President Melissa Lee Dueñas said it conducts background checks on all its employees.

“Our stance on sexual harassment or assault couldn’t be more clear: we have zero tolerance for such behavior,” Dueñas said in an email. “Each case is thoroughly investigated.”

Translates to 1) We thoroughly investigate and hire sexual predators and 2) We say this b.s. to protect our jobs, actually we have zero tolerance for those who complain about sexual harassment.

The report made it clear that those in charge enable sexual predators.

[–] Ace0fBlades@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Makes you wonder what challenges women will face in future space exploration missions. Long periods of isolation with groups of coworkers with very little personal space. Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock (It''ll probably happen who am I kidding)

[–] IverCoder@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago

Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock

a m o g u s

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

there's no doubt that sexual predation would be a big issue and that women would be the first victims of any violence, but it's just part of the greater concern over authority in such a small society.. who is in charge, how are rules enforced and misbehavior punished.. i'm not optimistic that a Mars outpost would be able to survive its own judicial system, for example.. or any of the prepper compounds.. they're sort of all guaranteed to descend into really barbaric circumstances socially..

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

or any of the prepper compounds

You wouldn't want to be stuck for a long time in a society made up exclusively of people with severe anxiety and personal issues who reject society? I can't imagine why.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i'm pretty sure they're all guaranteed nightmare scenarios.. i think people build them just for the drama.. so they're all drama queens on top of it..

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[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Future missions should be all-women teams. Problem solved.

Women eat less, use less oxygen, and weigh less than men. There's actually no logical reason to send male astronauts anywhere.

Edit: lol @ the downvotes with zero responses

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[–] ghostBones@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had a female friend/coworker that had previously served in the Navy, on a carrier as a communications specialist. She told stories of endless harassment. She said ultimately some of the women crafted partnerships with other female sailors and convinced everyone they were lesbians in order to just survive the job. It meant they had to spend lots of time together and play the part. She also said they had to work the jealousy angle because nobody wanted to be attacked by an angry lesbian girlfriend.

The male sailors assumed a lot of the women were lesbians because of the masculine nature of the work, or, as she put it, because they couldn't believe the women weren't attracted to them. It turned out if you gave them a plausible explanation you could fake your way through it. Without a plausible explanation, they could become resentful and dangerous. I asked if claiming to be married and/or have kids would work, she said it wasn't as effective and you ultimately needed female allies anyway. She also said that actual lesbians would pretend to "date" hetero women in order to protect them. She kind of described it as leveraging the power of rumors.

I told her it sounded a lot like what happens in prison. She said in some ways, it was a prison.

[–] Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This. This is why humanity cannot have nice things.

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[–] lasagna@programming.dev 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One of them carried a hammer held by her bra. Wild. The person in charge of this place should be facing criminal charges.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

That's just stupid, they have ice climbing picks that would hang far more comfortably from a belt. And be easier to reach when needed.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago (82 children)

Yeah, as a woman, I'd be real hesitant about taking a job out there, or any place thats more wild-west in nature (very few people and very lax regulation of any laws) and I'd sure as hell take gun tactical training before going, and always have a firearm on me.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

We're just ignoring the sign that damn near reads "McMurder Station"?

[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Being alone in the middle of a literal ice desert with a lot of male nerds so socially awkward that they rather be in the middle of an ice desert sounds like an absolute disaster.

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