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[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 145 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you’d like to pay via PayPal, contact our sales team.

For fuck’s sake, either you accept PayPal or you don’t. What kind of shady behind-the-curtains bullshit are you trying to pull?

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 127 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The API for the PayPal checkout workflow is too complicated for us, but one of us knows how to manually type in the order details to send you an invoice.

[–] jonasw@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 6 months ago

They'll probably send you the paypal friends link, which you can't use for business purposes lol

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 132 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I buy a lot of things for work and if I can find a company that has the price listed I go with them over the one that makes me contact sales for a quote almost every time

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Well this one could be cheaper, but how could I even know, the price isn't listed.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 129 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's not cheaper, it costs me time.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Absolutely! And having to tolerate annoying and intrusive sales people

[–] sep@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Avoiding those are priceless

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This could be a great use for a voice AI chat bot connected to your phone line. Prompt it with something like,

"You're on a phone call to [Widgets Inc] to get a price quote for a [box of premium widgets]. You'll probably be put on hold to speak with the next available sales representative. Just wait until you get a person on the line. Then, ask for the price and immediately start negotiating for a better price. Use whatever strategy you want but never agree to whatever price they offer. Keep coming up with more ridiculous reasons that they should give you an even better price."

Then dial the phone, turn it over to the chat bot, and wander off to go do more important things.

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago

Especially considering that most of the time you'll sit on hold which can be awhile

If the company says "call" I ain't even going to bother because my 30 minutes is more valuable to me than whatever price they could say 99.9% of the time

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It’s more about not rewarding their disrespect and greed. Instead rewarding the company being open and upfront and not wasting my time

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 months ago

Exactly

Reward the company that respects me enough to not waste my time

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If it were cheaper, the price would be listed

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago

Sometimes you can blame the partnership agreement for that. Some manufacturers will have a MAP (minimum advertised price) and the distributor would be in violation of their contract if they showed it publicly.

Though that just shifts to being a manufacturer problem with the same result. Just saying it may not be the distributor being weird about pricing.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you have to ask for a price, it ain't cheap.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

If I have to ask for a price, I ain't bothering

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I do the same in stores. If there's no prices listed I'll just walk away. I absolutely hate surprises at the register.

[–] Teon@kbin.social 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I "walk away" online as well.
"Sign in to get price".
Guess what, it's never a mind blowing low price. It's like $5.00 less than normal. Hidden prices are never a deal.

[–] o0oradaro0o@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There actually can be bs from a manufacturer where a site cannot list an item below their MSRP so in order to do a sale they have to do the bs like "add to cart to see price" or making you sign in. Sure sometimes it's not an amazing deal but it can often be the lowest price you can find an item because they aren't allowed to advertise a price that low.

Edit: See comment below to learn about MAP "minimum advertised price" which is different from MSRP "manufacturer suggested retail price" leaving my above comment alone with its inaccuracy so that the below comment continues to make sense and you can learn as I did.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You're being too generous...

It's usually the exact same price or higher.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

No price, no sale. I tell myself that whenever I have to walk away from a product that didn't have a listed price.

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I moved last year. I looked into so many companies that drop off a box for later pickup. Only one of them (U-Haul) published their prices and they were very affordable.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 6 months ago (4 children)

They published their price because their marketing advantage was price.

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It infuriates me that members of my species keep these places in business. They should all be out of business since absolutely no one should be buying their unpriced shit.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Short of custom work, but even still, give me a "starting at" price so I know whether it's worth my time to investigate.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Like a $1,900-$4,800. I've seen that a lot because even w/o custom work there's a lot of options or additional features/drawers they can add in. Sizes, etc.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago

That happens at my job, we're instructed to not give prices cause it depends on a number of factors but I do give starting prices and make sure to repeat at least three times that's they're the minimums and there is no upper limit cause it depends on those factors. It's free to have one of my licensed inspectors go out and do his thing to provide an exact number anyways. The number includes taxes too so there's no surprises.

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[–] Baku@aussie.zone 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Even worse: when you have to call to cancel a subscription.

I subscribed online, I should be able to cancel online.

Of course, it's also hidden deep in the terms of service that you can't cancel online. They know what they're doing.

[–] Luvon@beehaw.org 10 points 6 months ago

Think California specifically made a law that whatever the sign up method is there must also exist that method for cancellation.

Laws against bs.

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[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Same with certain home improvement companies that hope once you're on the line, they can close the sale there and then.
I swear they must make all their money off people who don't want to think about what the job involves, and just hand over a chequebook.

The water softener from Costco is £500, the one from ScrewFix is £400, but I'm curious how much the one from NameBrand is.
NameBrand website "Well, it can vary a lot depending on how complicated..."
Forum posts: "£2k including fitting and a year's salt, £1500 for the unit"
(Which isn't an insane price to just have it sorted, I just hate the bollocks excuses when everyone magically still comes out around £2k)

The physical staircase will cost me about £1000, then a few days of skilled labour for someone to fit.
I wonder how much one of those "we'll just handle it" companies in the back of the sunday supplement could do it for...Oh, that's 15 times the price, wonderful.

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[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Guess i'll take my business elsewhere. Too bad nobody else in this world sells desks 😘

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd guess they don't actually want to sell you a desk. They are probably in the business of selling hundreds of desks for offices, and this is their way of keeping out the small purchases that they aren't targeting.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's just lazy. They can put min order quantity to achieve the same effect.

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[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Tbh I think that bugs everyone not just us lol

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If you've got to ask you can't afford it.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 months ago

If I'm looking at what amounts to a catalog, you better have prices, because your shit isn't that expensive.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 28 points 6 months ago (7 children)

3 star Michelin restaurants list their prices online and that's about as exclusive as you can get. This is just hiding the price so they can try to strong-arm people on the phone.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

Or get a sense of how little you know about the product/competition to judge how much they can get away scamming you for.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's an art supply store Michaels, they don't list so much as a paint brush price on their site. This combined with their incessant need to ask me for my email every time I buy even one tiny thing at their store, ensures that I'm never going there again. From what I understand the employees get in trouble if they don't ask and get emails which is bullshit

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

i have one amazon account i'm locked out from because i forgot the name i used to sign up for it (there are numerous ways i could've written it and they only gave me three attempts) and another one that's blocked because i incorrectly filled my credit card details while ordering a gift card and about to just create a third one because they want me to call them and talk to support for both cases.

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