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Does it count as a meme if it's from 1985 but still structured like a meme?

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All you need to know about Ayn Rand is that she cashed her Social Security checks.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

I believe she also applied for welfare and public assistance.

[–] Gingerailed@kbin.social 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Everything Rand ever said essentially boiled down to "Equity is bad because I'm the smartestest".

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

More like your boss is smarter than you and if they left the world would collapse.

The funny thing is anyone with half a brain and any real life experience knows it's bs.

These conservatives always think they're special snowflakes that the world would collapse if they left.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The most distressing thing about this quote from Rand is that many people, even today, will read it and say that it's wise, insightful, and true, rather than see it for what it is: incoherent nonsense.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

  • John Rogers
[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I remember watching a video essay on one of her books a few years ago (it was either Atlas or Fountainhead) and the video pointed out that in order to read Marx's Das Kapital you have to get through like 30 pages of maths at the very beginning and describes the world as it is (at least from Marx's perspective), but Ayn Rand had to invent not one but several super metals, stronger, lighter, and cheaper than steel, and make everyone other than her main characters complete idiots in order to form her view on how the world should be. The fact that these two outlooks can even be comparable is laughable on its face, but knowing that many American politicians view here's as the 'correct' one is downright depressing (and more importantly, dangerous)

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've read all of Rand. I think her novels are fucking hilarious - although not for the intended reasons. Her dialogue is like some deliberately overwrought sketch you'd see on youtube/tiktok/IG

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of her writing reminds me of trashy fanfic smut, like 50 Shades-level of awkward to read and just bad writing practices

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Ayn Rand writes capitalist slash fic

[–] waterore@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Crumb, among others, are the godparents of memes

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 9 points 4 months ago

You mean he's well-trusted by Richard Dawkins?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ayn Rand? You mean that miserable woman who died broke and alone because her groupies took her message seriously and acted in their own interest?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

that miserable woman who died broke

And literally on welfare. It just doesn't get funnier than that.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you don’t know anything about Rand or her book, the first half of that quote actually makes sense. It only goes to shit once she starts talking about “the so-called redistribution of wealth”. I agree with the parts before that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, quotes taken out of context do sometimes make sense.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ugh! I was doing the exact same thing that crappy news organizations do! Cherry picking. Thank you for pointing it out.

Remember, kids, context is important!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

No worries, we all do it sometimes.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

This feedback and growth vibe is lovely, this community can really shine in the right light.

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Memes don't have consistent structure, they can be photos, drawings, comics, animated cartoons, gifs, videos, plain text (comments, posts, articles), screenshots, etc. Anything can be a meme if people decide to alter and spread it. This definitely has potential, since you could replace the Ayn Rand quote and pic with that of whomever you wanted to say was a witch full of shit.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

How about me, Greg? Can you meme me?

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Huh francis from l4d hates ayn rand