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GNOME 46.1 Desktop Environment Released with Explicit Sync Support (9to5linux.com)
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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lots of nice little tweaks, but nothing major unless the lack of explicit sync was causing issues for you

But then again I guess that's the point of a point release.

I'm very much looking forward to 47/48, where the bulk of the Sovereign Tech Fund's contributions will come to fruition. It'll also happen to line up nicely with Fedora moving to DNF5 and away from their current god-awful installer.

Late 2024 and early 2025 will be a good time. And not just for Gnome either, much of the accessibility stack Gnome is working on is cross-desktop, and we'll all benefit from it. Linux is about to get a whole lot better for people with accessibility requirements.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago

Moving to dnf5

Just a heads up: if you're used to something superfast like pacman or xbps, even dnf5 can't compare to them, at least in my experience. Still miles ahead of regular dnf, and I'd even recommend dnf5 for OpenSUSE users too.

Much of the accessibility stack GNOME is working on is cross-desktop

I didn't know that. This is wonderful news!!!

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is excellent to see explicit sync. It is now is GNOME, KDE, XWayland, and Mesa. We just need the NVIDIA driver that supports it and that is coming soon I believe.

Most users will not see this until the fall distribution releases unfortunately. Rolling releases will be proving it all out soon though so it should be in good shape for the masses by year end.

Having these basic Wayland issues addressed and equalizing the experience between NVIDIA and other GPU hardware is a big win for everybody.

[–] bastonia@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

they already support it. They are testing it before it gets released in their next release 555 (around July)

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Bugger. Was hoping it was a sync upgrade for cloud storage providers.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why the downvotes? This guy wanted something else. What's wrong with that? In fact, I believe it opens up room for healthy discussion.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for caring @warmaster.

I don't mind the downvotes - it's part of life and I did kinda go off on a tangent which some people wouldn't have appreciated.

Still, the lack of a proper Google Drive (in my case) sync feature that has offline support is an impediment to migrating away from Windows. I'm a little puzzled as to why Google doesn't support it, yet they do a Mac version which is sort-of Linux. Maybe because there's so many Linux implementations?

[–] Para_lyzed@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Seems as if there are quite a variety of options, simply by typing a query into a search engine. In fact, KDE Plasma has Google account syncing in the "Online Accounts" section of settings, and it seems Dolphin (the default file manager) has native support for Google Drive in its context menus. I've never personally tried to use it, as I don't associate with Google products, but it seems that it's there natively. As far as GNOME goes, it seems at least Ubuntu (probably a GNOME thing in general) has support for connecting a Google account, but I have no idea what the experience is like as far as data syncing goes.

You don't need a native Google made app to sync with Google Drive. Google has no interest in supporting Linux outside of its investment in ChromeOS (which is based on Linux and has Drive syncing built-in, showcasing that this is a non-issue as its main selling point). There are plenty of apps available that allow you to sync on Linux, and it seems (based on what I see in the settings pages) that there are even native options in certain desktop environments.

Maybe because there's so many Linux implementations?

You mean distros? Linux is a kernel, and it is shared across all distros (with each distro choosing the modules and versions they support). It has nothing to do with Linux being difficult to support, or there being many different versions of it, and everything to do with the fact that Google's only interest in supporting it is to sell a version of it with their brand on it. Supporting any distro outside of ChromeOS would be supporting open source software, which stands directly against Google's vested interest in selling their own proprietary solutions and your user data. After all, you actually have control over your own data when you use Linux, and that's a threat to Google's business model.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Thanks for that.

Yes I did some research. Certainly you can access Google Drive in Gnome quite easily. It works pretty well if you're online and on a decent connection.

There are third party paid tools available to do the background syncing etc if needed.

Thanks for the clarification re Chrome OS. I never really thought of it as an actual usable OS alternative to Linux as it seems too locked down to be useful.

[–] t0mri@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Why even care about downvotes? He just wanted to share his thought and he did it. It wont affect him in anyway. I mean give this comment a 100 downvotes. Do I care? No.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It doesn't matter in this (as of now) unpopular thread. But it does matter for the Fediverse culture. Downvoting takes posts to the bottom, it drives attention away. Driving attention away from a post that promotes healthy discussion is the opposite of what the Fediverse is all about.

[–] t0mri@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

I see. In a greater scope it potentially hides a healthy discussion and thats unhealthy. I agree. Sorry ihad it so narrow. I didnt know that.

Im not playing this feels like its a great realization for my life too thank you for this

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think it was such a mistake to implement the downvote feature in the first place.

We've seen from Reddit that all it ends up being used for is downvoting people who ask questions and people with opinions different to the rest of the thread. The worst part is that downvoting kinda has "momentum" in that people are more likely to downvote and be angry at comments that have already accrued downvotes, even if in another thread in the same community wouldn't react in the same way.

And as much as people on Lemmy often act like we're oh so different from Reddit, we really aren't. It's practically identical.

If the comment is spam, hateful, doxxing, or otherwise against the rules, there's a report button for that. And if no mod acts on it, it's probably not a community a typical person would want to contribute to anyway.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

I only down vote political BS in non political subs. Anytime I complain that shower thoughts or some other random sub shouldn't be the place to promote communism I get down voted

[–] bastonia@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

you can always look at the current state of this problem and maybe do a donation so it gets implemented faster.

[–] UnixAwesome@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

gnome is unequivocally the best de in linux. I don't understand how people use laggy and crashing KDE

[–] heartfelthumburger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

Kde works fine on my machine 🤷

[–] LemmyBe@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Screen is often blurry at 150%. Too small at 100%, too big at 200%. Waiting for next release which is supposed to improve fractional scaling.