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Most notably, the high court will weigh if and when a former president can claim criminal immunity for acts committed while in office as Trump, who is currently on trial for allegedly concealing hush money payments to an adult film actress, fights three additional indictments over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and his hoarding of classified documents.”

Trump’s appeal is set to come before the justices on Thursday.

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[–] Norgur@fedia.io 64 points 6 months ago (2 children)

From the outside, the US increasingly looks like an autocracy lead by those "judges" in the supreme court that apparently can not be touched in any way and somehow get to decide just about everything.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is also how it looks and feels from the inside. Biden better step up and use his “absolute presidential immunity” to save America if it comes to that.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The thing is, the Supreme Court has no means of enforcing it's judgements. If enough of the people believe the Court is no longer legitimate then their judgements will cease to hold weight. If we ever reach that point then the country as we know it will likely be unable to recover.

[–] makatwork@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I currently believe the court is illegitimate. I wonder how many others already hold the same belief.

I also thnk the court can be saved, but something would need to be done about the blatanct corruption, such as the removal of certain judges

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

Yep, if that happens, the judiciary breaks down. If I do not need to respect the judgement of the supreme Court, why do I need.to respect the judgement of any court?

If this takes root among law enforcement (this seems to have already started big time) and among the general public, public order becomes impossible to maintain.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you delay judgment on a frivolous pleading from Trump.

They pile up at the deadline.

Maybe you should have denied cert, guys.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The worst part is that they ALLOW Trump to keep moving the goalposts. First it was "the President is completely immune from prosecution", then it was "anyone who's been President is immune from prosecution for anything they do while in office", now it's "well they're not completely immune, they just have to be impeached and convicted first".

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And it's not just crimes committed while in office, but all crimes ever committed if you're ever president

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If it passes, Obama should just walk right up to Trump and smack him like a bitch.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

While yelling "I pardon myself!" after every slap.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would love for the AG to file an amicus brief on behalf of Biden saying “we eagerly look forward to the ruling so that we can act in accordance “

[–] bradv@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't want Biden breaking the law either.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If they rule a president isn’t culpable then they basically have determined the law doesn’t apply to the president. So he’s not breaking any laws s at that point.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The President becomes a (temporary?) King.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

That’s exactly what Trump has been arguing for (dictator, but same difference). The outcome of this case will determine that.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's a bluff/logical argument.

If your spouse declared "I can sleep with whoever I want to!" you might download tinder and say "Oh really? How does it feel?"

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cutting off our own head to save face.

[–] RazorsLedge@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

To spiderface*