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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 159 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Funny thing is, EULA agreements like this have already been shot down in so many cases, it's dumb at this point to try and pull this off. They're just trying to test if anyone will actually pull the trigger on a class action.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're just trying to test if anyone will actually pull the trigger on a class action.

What would be the benefit to such a move?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 67 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Thirty-seven cents for every Discord user.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Groundwork for "the next step", which is expecting zero privacy, and all your messages are sold. Mark me.

[–] darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 6 months ago

But even so they costs the companies involved millions, they wouldn't want to be dragged through one

[–] CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Yeah, not sure why folks care

I can sue discord and there's nothing their EULA can do to stop me.

God bless our right to litigate*

*terms and conditions apply: enough money to win in a battle of attrition

[–] Donut@leminal.space 108 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

*For US users

EU users are already protected so this doesn't apply to them.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Its amazing that a company in the US can simply demand that if you use their services you have to agree not to sue them. Its one of the only reasons anyone could or would sue them!

[–] tearsintherain@leminal.space 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget the use of mandatory employment arbitration which effectively reduces workers rights by not allowing them a right to legal action.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Just tacking on to your comment for any US workers:

Just because you can't sue for your rights doesn't mean nobody can. The government is often perfectly happy to sue on your behalf to recover lost wages or to punish workplace health and safety violations.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

wow! and they think people don't want to work!

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[–] alexsup21@szmer.info 57 points 6 months ago

Common W for the EU

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 94 points 6 months ago (4 children)

...in the USA. Doesn't affect us over the pond, but very important for USA users to take note.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

…in the USA. Doesn’t affect us over the pond, but very important for USA users to take note.

Really appreciate you guys over there keeping up the pressure on corporations to act ethically/ accordingly.

Here's hoping some of that splash back happens over here.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

High five for unalienable rights

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Came to say this. Here in the AU you cannot exclude certain things, this being one of them. They can write it all they like into the TOS, but cannot be enforced. There are many examples, but basically no TOS/Warranty/T&C can exclude or explicitly deny any rights you have or laws that protect you.

Similar to warranty here. Many companies like to put "limited liability" and 30 day warranty. But in AU, the warranty has to fall within our laws. (for example Samsung saying warranty on a $5000 TV is 2 years. Well in AU if the tv is that expensive, you have the right to claim warranty on manufacturing failure for at least 5 years.) Many items we buy here, have an "Australia only warranty amendment page" stuffed in the box!

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 55 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Companies can do that in US? Sounds like a loophole...

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are many, we're just oblivious because it doesn't affect us in our day to day lives. I'm sure there are loopholes in the EU as well.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago

Welcome to the corpocracy and the land of the fee.

[–] Vendul@feddit.de 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead, give Discord your address

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It already has anyway. Ive requested my discord data once and everytime you do anything in discord it explicitly saves and stores the location of where you were when you interacted with discord.

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[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I attempted to email opt-out@discord.com per the ToS and got a bounceback.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 6 points 6 months ago

Also be sure that you send it from the email associated with your account. As per the update on the situation discord gave, in which it announced an extended deadline of 90 days up from 30 days from April 15th or account creation, the contents of the email don't seem to matter much.

I included my account userid and username just to be safe.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ah, thanks!

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

A bounceback? What does that mean? Anyways I sent three emails to arbitration-opt-out@discord.com but got no replies at all.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Everyone calm down. They're just going to use it for training AI and if you love tech you love AI. So this is a non-issue.

The trained AI will make their public offering so much more desirable

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (13 children)

unmarked sarcasm whooshes even the mighty users of Lemmy, apparently

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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just deleted my account & it solved all my discord problems.

[–] agency_cookie_penalty@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It’s cute you think deleting your account means they’ve removed your user and information from their servers.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Id assume one could have them do that if they lived in EU

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[–] hash0772@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I deleted my Discord account 2 days ago, and I'm very happy with that choice. Conversations / Any XMPP client is significantly better than Discord in terms of direct messaging and small groups for friends. Some of my friends haven't switched to Conversations yet, but at that point it is their choice to not speak with me outside of work.

[–] RaccoonBall@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm still sticking with IRC.

You'll all be back... Some day

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