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He becomes the latest shock rocker to share his distaste for gender-affirming care after Dee Snider and Paul Stanley shared similar views.

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[–] gabe 94 points 1 year ago

That’s nice grandpa let’s get you back to bed

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 86 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Downvoted because this isn’t news, it’s culture war bait.

Who gives a fuck what Alice Cooper thinks?

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't care what he thinks, but now that he put it out there, I can't disassociate him from his shit opinion.

[–] lemmeout@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's actually a good point. Thank you. We don't need this rage bait shit.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like trans people and their allies should know who their enemies are and what they're saying and doing, if only for their own safety.

It is infuriating, and its not the reasoned and insightful conversations about our personally held systems of normative values and the experience and empirical evidence that informs them that I wish we were having instead of these conversations, but I just think it's irresponsible to turn a blind eye to it because ignoring it won't make it go away and could let it fester and spread.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine many trans people looking up to a washed up 80s rocker has been, but I guess aside from that I see your point.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I see your point, but Alice Cooper is a washed up old hack. He’s not swinging any votes to DeSantis or anything like that.

For the sake of your mental health it’s important to focus on what matters and ignore that which doesn’t. In my opinion Alice Cooper does not matter and getting outraged by his opinion only distracts you from what’s really important.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Thank you. Also downvoted this shit.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy who dresses up and wears makeup..

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Was going to comment... for the dude that looks like a crazy cat lady in her 90s that had way too much to drink last night and woke up in a ditch he's got some weird opinion on this.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 44 points 1 year ago (14 children)

This stance seems so off-brand for Dee and Alice. But they are pretty up there in age. I might not want to know my dad's inner thoughts on this, either, I suppose. Still, for glam rockers raging against oppressive authority, it seems like they would have a more progressive take on this.

[–] MTLion3@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Your last sentiment is one I’d agree with. You’d think that any rocker from back in the day that was all about being anti authority would tell people to go out there and do what the fuck they want. Hearing an opinion like this feels off brand lol

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

still, for glam rockers raging against oppressive authority

Did he say he was for the government stopping trans people from making their own choices?

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[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago

so many bigots outing themselves.

[–] bazus1@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

75 y-o shouts at sky.

I haven't heard Alice Cooper since I stopped listening to the Wayne's World soundtrack in the 90s. I guess I can continue to not hear him with impunity.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, I'm at the point where I really have to say 'so what?' about shit that aging, boomer rock stars of the cocaine fueled past say. Like really who gives a fuck what Alice Cooper thinks? He's always been a Gene Simmons level asshole main character personality type. He has only ever gotten attention by pissing someone off. This is easy. Let these people drift off into irrelevance. Stop allowing them to matter.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is that no matter how much those of us who know he's full of shit ignore him, he still has a massive platform and enough people who agree and will lap this shit up, and then do anything from bullying their trans co workers to going on a shooting spree, not to mention legislation that gets supported by these types and the harm it does (E: also, we don't know that he doesn't agree with what he's saying, but even if he claims not to, he's still throwing trans people under the bus which is an act of transphobia).

I agree that he's ragebaiting for attention but that doesn't change the impact of his words.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Oh shit, an old, irrelevant douchebag said it, so I guess it must be true. Someone put this man in a home, please.

I guess a no-substance shock rocker dude who wears makeup and calls himself Alice would have a take on this subject. Really shitty take though.

[–] MisterMoo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Incredibly sad to see Alice Cooper using rote, boring anti-trans talking points, especially the old canard of 'any man can walk into a woman's restroom by saying he feels like a woman today,' which is something I've seen online more times than I can count and even heard in person from a few folks almost word-for-word. Don't be a parrot, Vincent.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rich, white, out-of-touch boomer. You used to be relevant, now you're just the status quo...

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Something so many of these folks need to learn is that shutting up is free.

[–] JuzoInui@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Looks like somebody chewed on a bat that was past its sell-by date

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think it is a fad though.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I mean it’s Alice Cooper, I’m not sure we should be listening to them.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Anyone get Ja Rule's take?

[–] cthonctic@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Talentless hack who was last relevant forty years ago (for some reason) manages to get into the news. Now back to your rocking chair, grandpa.

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