this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2023
5 points (100.0% liked)

politics

19089 readers
3900 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] GodOfThunder@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why don't you post this in a us community. I don't give a shit about this.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is a U.S. community. Did you read the description?

[–] OmnislashIsACloudApp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I gotta say while I'm not happy with Texas decisions and there's a lot of bs there it doesn't seem even as bad as Florida much less Alabama and Mississippi.

[–] dudebro@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Texans are some of the most delusional people on the planet.

The fact they think their state even holds a candle to Florida is laughable.

People live in Texas for one reason: tax breaks.

The only other state worse than Texas is Louisiana. Everyone in the nation agrees except Texans.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] teft@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  1. Texas
  2. Oklahoma
  3. Louisiana
  4. (tie) South Carolina
  5. (tie) Alabama
  6. Missouri
  7. Indiana
  8. Tennessee
  9. Arkansas
  10. Florida
[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone from West Virginia I'm stunned we didn't make the list. McDowell county is hell on earth. The northern part of the state really does hard carry the rest of it.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Economic and health factors in this ranking are severely downplayed in favor of hot social issues.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I personally agree with this list. But, we have to be pragmatic here. This is what CNBC says they did:

"The study measures quality of life issues including crime, health care, childcare and health care, as well as inclusive policies on discrimination and reproductive rights."

See, the last two skew this study. People in these shit hole states (not all, but at least enough of the voting public) don't want inclusive policies or reproductive rights. So, to them, this metric is backwards. They would argue that living in California or New York was way more terrible because of the brown people and gays.

This isn't exactly a scientific study. It's taking objective data to reach a subjective conclusion. Neat headline though.

Edit: many if them are arguing exactly that in this thread. With a nice dose of racism and misogyny thrown in. Nice. I love when shit comes full circle.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reproductive rights is healthcare.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Abortion isn't a right.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] KoofNoof@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s democrats ranking states based off their policies, so of course the Republican states will all be at the bottom lol.

Headline should be: “Democrats say Republican states are worst states to live in”.

We should be posting political articles that aren’t clickbait echo chamber propaganda. Don’t let this become Reddits /r/politics, which was REALLY /r/democrats

[–] Ryumast3r@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't even read their metrics did you? It's based on crime rates, healthcare, quality of health, etc. Those are pretty objective measures, and ones that republican-controlled states often fight against (see: reluctance to expand medicaid).

[–] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's a completely unbiased excerpt about the "worst" state of Texas:

The Lone Star State keeps hacking away at inclusiveness, with laws targeting the LGBTQ+ population, voting rights, and the nation’s strictest abortion ban. Yes, there are enormous economic opportunities in Texas, and it is attracting people from far and wide. But this state also has some Texas-sized issues when it comes to life, health and inclusion. And it is one of the reasons that the state fell out of the overall top five for the first time in the 16-year history of CNBC’s rankings.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Are you trying to say that laws that impact people's control over their identity are ok?

load more comments (19 replies)
[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Um. Yes. It fucking SUCKS to be a woman, LGBTQ+ + community member, or a minority here in Texas. Good luck if you're all 3.

This state is a steaming pile of shit and a blight on America. I wish it would secede, but only after the government offers refugee status to those of us who are sane and want to leave.

Then Texas can take its misogynistic, racist, bigoted, xenophobic self and go create its own country. And it can take Florida with it!

[–] monz@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Something bad said against Republicans is propaganda” doesn’t sound fascist at all, huh?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you provide a ranking where you would say these states would come out top? What kind of metric would you like to see being used?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So reading through this is a bit surprising. I hadn't been paying as much attention to some of these state based issues. It looks like the argument of the article is that despite strong historic economic numbers some of the recent steps taken by states have created challenges for businesses.

It seems that the knock down effect of reproductive health laws in a restriction in the number of practicing doctors per state. So it is not exactly the law that is the issue, but the fact that the ratio of doctors to patients is going in an adverse direction. The article is arguing that the extent is enough to create challenges for citizens in Texas. That seems like a sound premise, basically its harder to get and see a doctor because fewer doctors are moving to Texas compared to the growing population.

It seems that the states that were less of economic powerhouses to begin with could have negative effects with less strict laws since they didn't start from as strong a position.

The rest of it seems to be based on how accessible child care and health insurance are. If you want families and not just labor those resources can greatly reduce the need for high wages.

I'd briefly seen the big fails, like the Texas power grid and the bans on investment funds taking climate change into account. There was also that thing where Florida decide it was time to kill Disney.

Not moving the office buildings to Florida was a MUCH bigger deal to Disney that it appeared. The cost of 1-2 billion was going to be offset by MUCH lower cost of living for employees,(less pay as well) favorable taxes an the sale of super valuable real estate in California. It was very likely structured to be a net positive for the company. So I think that this is basically the core of the article. Even what should be on paper good deals are now in questions because of the state policies.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This could be another huge talking point for Democrats, but once again, this great opportunity to ding Republican governance is going to be missed since Democrats are so utterly incompetent to sell their successes and attack their opponents.

The inflation rate has fallen down to 3%, which is one of the lowest in the industrialized world right now. Have there been Democrats all over the news selling that success? No, of course not. Gotta keep those wins well hidden, dontchaknow!

[–] deftdrummer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Good, stay the fuck out! Stay in your own shit holes.

load more comments
view more: next ›