A Russian Mi-8 helicopter crew landed and surrendered in the Kharkiv region. : ukraine

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're going to surrender bring gifts. It's the polite thing to do.

[–] bucho@lemmy.one 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Especially since Ukraine will pay out a bonus. This helicopter should net the crew about $500,000.

[–] karlthemailman@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It sounds like the crew, except for the pilot was killed? Pretty brutal for the crew. I assume there was no other option

[–] Generic_Handel@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's always the possibility they were in on it and were just reported killed to avoid possible retaliation against their families.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

Get this guy a clearance and a desk!

[–] bucho@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe there was, and maybe there wasn't. Defecting to the country you're at war with is an incredibly risky endeavor, especially if you're taking ~$10m worth of military hardware with you. Could be that the crew member(s) who survived just erred on the side of caution and killed anybody they weren't 100% sure about.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Could also be that they defected and reported that they were killed, to protect their families from retaliation.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck em. These weren't grunt conscripts force into war, they chose their path of destruction.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ironically, these days the Ruskies couldn’t give less of a fuck about their comrades.

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

If a nation starts shooting at their own civilian aircraft you know something has gone seriously wrong.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is reunited with his family that was taken to Ukraine earlier.

Threatening people's loved ones sometimes backfires, doesn't it Putler?

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I'm curious about the background here. Were they fleeing Russia as dissidents? Were they captured conscripts? Definitely sounds like an interesting story.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smart move.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

Based AF tbh. Good on them.

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the reward for defecting with a helicopter? I remember planes and tanks having pretty substantial amounts listed.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone else said $500,000 USD

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, I'd get my ass to Ukraine ASAP if I were a Russian pilot.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

Right, especially if they can get your family safely there before hand.

[–] Puschkul@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

It will make for a good movie later.

[+] RemembertheApollo@kbin.social -19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I feel really bad for the guys that defect like this. There have been a few stories of defectors being traded back to Russian forces in exchange for Ukrainian prisoners. The defectors were killed and made an example of. Sucks, because if you don’t want to fight the war you have few options, and none of them good.

[–] AllahFucksKids@fedia.io 16 points 1 year ago

Untrue, any Russian in Ukranian captivity can refuse to be in prisoner swaps.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there verifiable evidence that defectors are being sent back? That sounds like Russian propaganda.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You mean, "Are there verifiable numbers for the inflow of defectors and the ongoing POW trades?", I'm guessing? If so, now I'm curious to hear whether you intended that to be rhetorical.

[–] spagnod@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russian propaganda that makes Russia look bad?

[–] Rogue_General@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Russian propaganda that discourages Russians from defecting to Ukraine.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still. In that situation, the only possible good outcome is after the risk of defecting/surrendering. In every other option, you die doing the wrong thing, so if you're going to die regardless of your ethics, might as well make it better for those that are fighting your killers. I would choose the same, dark as it may be.

[–] crossal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

How do you know they'd have died continuing to fly the chopper?