Yea it's infuriating how they make no point then are able to declare themselves victorious. A lot of Ethan's wins were like "see what I'm dealing with?" directly to the audience, but that falls short if you're hitting people that are biased against you. He did a good job breaking a bunch of things down and backing them into a corner on direct lies, but they are so childish that it's hard to call them out without another adult on this side to portray a consensus that it's those two knuckleheads aren't competent.