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Gen Z be like "IF YOU CANT TIP DON'T EAT OUT" and then shoplift

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[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well I rather like the sentiment in any case. Just be sure to shoplift from a big chain.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 18 points 8 months ago

Or from a small business if the owners are raging fascists

[–] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 3 points 8 months ago

I've seen some videos talking about the sophistication of big chains' (especially target) video monitoring systems and how the risk of getting caught has skyrocketed recently. It has informed my risk assessment for sure.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Shoplifting is a statistically calculated loss that companies adjust their prices to accommodate. Not tipping punishes your server for working (they have to give a percentage of your bill back to the restaurant because whether or not you tip the server, the bartender and chefs get paid from the server). One is literally a victimless crime and the other victimizes a working poor person.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

im not sure if I would say its a victimless crime but I came to say something similar. its kinda similar to stealing in relation to wealth. Its funny because it came into a meatspace convo I had where two people were being compared in stealing behavior but one is doing decently and the other is in a fucked situation and to me there is more of a moral onus on the person that can afford what they are stealing compared to one who can't.

[–] jadero@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 months ago

You say all that as if that is the only possible system. I can understand creating a system where tips are pooled for distribution to everyone who has no supervisory duties. But a system where a tip is assumed so that there is a possibility of actual financial loss should be illegal.

I bet if we could organize a widespread "tip strike," the system, including legislation, would rapidly change in ways that make tipping unnecessary.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Granted I'm a millennial not gen z but I am so done with tipping culture. The whole thing is worse for employees and consumers. If everyone keeps tipping it won't ever go away or be dialed back. Yeah the short term is worse for employees and I feel for them, I'm married to a cook I get it. The idea that not tipping makes someone an asshole is exactly what businesses want us to perpetuate, and the internal moral high ground about it keeps us fighting each other

The reality should be tip if you want, don't tip if you don't want, stop spending energy fighting your fellow working class over their decision. The problem is with working wages and if you don't believe a business is providing that then don't buy stuff from them in the first place. That's how we vote in capitalism

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every single thing you hear about gen Z on the internet is true.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)