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KDE believes in the power of diversity and inclusion. Women* enrich our community, shaping more inclusive and accessible tech.

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[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Don't understand the * in that?? Like are there others included that are not worth mentioning or trying to be "inclusive" without being inclusive? Or is just those people just afterthoughts, footnotes?

[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah even if there is a worthwhile footnote, that * signals that "there's a catch, uh oh spaghettios"

If you're shouting out Non-Binary spectrum, Xenos, Agender, or others too just say so. If we're talking trans folk, there's no asterisk needed. If you are looking to include men, what's the point of shouting out the women, just thank all contributors. The effort is nice but that bit of the execution is pretty flawed and opens up way too much discussion that gives the bigots a platform to yell on.

[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

As a non-binary person myself, I actually hope the asterisk isn't meant to refer to me. I get offended enough by the common "women and non-binary" phrasing. But to literally include me as a footnote under "women"? If I was a women, I wouldn't be non-binary.

Not to harp on KDE too much here. Even in queer spaces, enby erasure is annoyingly common.

[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Entirely fair and valid! Apologies for making it sound like that would be a good thing. Thanks for your input on that.

[–] NotAtWork@startrek.website 11 points 7 months ago

I'm going to assume that Women was supposed to be in Italics.

[–] sanfierro@pony.social 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social There's something with federation or someone who made the asterisk forgot to elaborate it

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

*Including trans women

That's my guess.

[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago

The subtext there being that trans women aren't real women. TERF virtue signalling is fucking gross...

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago
[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

If you want a fun deep dive into tech and inclusiveness look up telephone technology and the female voice. People of color with Ai. Technology needs to be inclusive at all levels otherwise we'll have technology that is remained on only a portion of society. I'll check it out

[–] yuukayuuka@mastodon.cloud 6 points 7 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social that picture should definitely become a default included wallpaper

[–] enqfila@mastodon.com.br 5 points 7 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Whoops! Besides the obscure asterisk, the alt text mentions Kiki from Krita, when the image is Kate from Kate editor!

[–] Orca@nya.one 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It starts a conversation, gosh

[–] Nulhomme@mastodon.social 3 points 7 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Need to see more art of Kate the bird never knew it's a bird :toucan: feel even better that i use kate as a code editor

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social thanks for standing for diversity and inclusivity. ❀️

Love how being a woman always gets you an asterisk.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't find any difference in men and women having some advantage in efficiency or design taste besides what they probably were encouraged to do while being dependent on their parents. It's just stupid and unfair to hardline their future at that stage and later judge them by their gender while judging their employability or contribution. I'm happy some project and companies do care about that, because I encountered a lot of women being way better than me or their men coworkers in their lines of work due to their curiosity, responsibility and effort put into projects. I'd probably be happy if some successful start up would employ a women-only team to counter bigots and be succesful at that. And I can only cheer to parents who encourage their girls to try engineering, IT stuff and supporting them if they get interested in that.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So counter sexism with more sexism?

Everywhere I've worked people who are sexist get pushed to the side. It's simply not tolerated when work needs doing, and expertise is what matters.

I don't care what your dangly bits are, or who you screw. Why is that even part of any conversation about making widgets better, or more efficiently?

I've worked with people who love to talk politics at work, I can't fucking stand it, on any side. It's not related to what we're doing, so keep your fucking opinions to yourself, and focus on the job at hand. Your politics only interfere with what the rest of the team is trying to accomplish.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

I don't understand you.

[–] hacknorris@mstdn.social -3 points 7 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social once was close to add one app to whole DE... just that qt is hard and designer app either yet harder or bugged :/