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State of the Union Megapost! (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by jordanlund@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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Tonight, Thursday, March 7th, is the State of the Union Address so lets keep everything related to it (including the Republican response) confined to this thread.

This is probably one of the most important speeches Biden can give this year. He has to come across as "Present", not just "President".

This will set the tone for the campaign the rest of the year and will be second only to the Democratic Convention speech in August for visibility.

Watch it live here:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2024/

Or through your favorite news source.

The Republican response will be delivered by Senator Katie Britt of Alabama:

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/07/1236338784/katie-britt-alabama-republican-biden-state-of-the-union

Very good speech!

Full transcript is here:

https://time.com/6898705/read-president-joe-bidens-2024-state-of-the-union-address-full-transcript/

Republican response from Katie Britt here:

https://www.britt.senate.gov/press-releases/u-s-senator-katie-britt-responds-to-president-bidens-state-of-the-union-address/

I encourage you to watch the video and not just read the transcript. Reading it doesn't carry just how breathless and borderline weepy her delivery is.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 52 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

In my mind, the best bit was at the very end... it's not about the age of the candidate, it's about the age of the ideas, and fear and hate are some of the oldest ideas of mankind.

"My fellow Americans, the issue facing our nation isn’t how old we are, it’s how old our ideas are.

Hate, anger, revenge, retribution are among the oldest of ideas.

But you can’t lead America with ancient ideas that only take us back.

To lead America, the land of possibilities, you need a vision for the future of what America can and should be. "

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Listening to him work the floor now, he knows everyone and has something to tell them about the thing they care about. Its impressive.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

It's almost like he's been doing this for a while and has experience. Such a breath of fresh air after four years of that other guy.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Biden's ideas are pretty ancient themselves. But he's not wrong. Fuck anyone who vilifies the poor and minorities. Biden likely won't accomplish much to reduce poverty or help the average person. But he likely won't make any of that demonstrably worse ether. And honestly he's been way better than many imagined he would. Shitty Israel policy not withstanding. Thank goodness he's finally taking small steps to balance out his fuck ups.

I have some big hopes for 2028 if we're still holding elections. Hopefully some fresh young blood will be ready to run. Like Ocasio-Cortez after almost a decade in the house. But to get there I can't deny Biden is the path forward for now.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

God damn. What an ending. Thats some legacy shit right there.

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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 36 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Dude is sharp, it's no comparison really between Biden and the "look having nuclear guy". Im done giving the people "worried" about Bidens mind the time of day.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Before this speech, I wondered how he'd deal with the predictable topics he'd be attacked on. I didn't expect him to be the one to bring them all up himself. Baller move.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He's baiting them to shout out so he can smack them back down, and they're dumb enough to keep falling for it.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Over and over and over again! Those clips are going to get played on repeat.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Pretty good way to show that he's mentally sharp and on top of it. Republicans just destroyed their own talking point.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I really wish Biden would've turned around to Mike Johnson when he was talking about January 6th and ask, "what's the matter with you, man? Why aren't you clapping? So you support a fascist takeover? Of course you do.."

Also turn around and say, 'it's this man here who is blocking aid to Ukraine while women and children die in Ukraine"

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Dude, he was squirming hard in that chair lmao.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Love it, but I say twist the blade lol.

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[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's not just a good speech for Biden, this is the best SOTU I've ever heard.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Lmao. Led them into the Social Security trap again

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

EVERY trap! And they're acting as if they haven't learned their lesson a year or even a few minutes earlier

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 21 points 8 months ago

Biden knocked this fucker out of the park.

Bona-fide 500 foot grand slam blast over the center field wall.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 21 points 8 months ago (16 children)

So I get in my car, and i'm listening to the beat on MSNBC, and a reporter is saying that she was talking with a bunch of young voters, especially young black voters.

Basically, they think that they've already been through a Trump presidency, and it's not gonna be any different from the first time. Oh boy, could they not be more wrong. Apparently, they haven't heard about project 2025, or they think it's nothing big that 20,000 fascists are itching to take over government roles in the next Trump White House.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Maybe I am dumb but... I am genuinely starting to think many people are fundamentally incapable of imagining complex, abstract potential outcomes (like allowing Trump back in office).

I always assumed envisioning such things was easy, instant, and obvious for nearly everyone.

Several years ago I started noticing a couple of people make decisions that to me seemed insane and later they were surprised by the outcome that I saw coming a mile away.

And I started wondering, could this ability to imagine how things will turn out be much rarer than I ever imagined?

I genuinely don't know for sure. Not like I have a ton of conversations with different people let alone ones about cognitive abilities lol.

Like, I didn't even realize some people can't see images in their heads or don't have an inner monologue (think by "talking to themselves" using language) until fairly recently and I'm in my 50s.

Surely anyone can imagine some vague idea of what happens if they jump in front of a speeding bus. That's simple. Surely you can at least conceptualize that you'll be run into and injured or killed. Maybe even imagine it with some internal video of your body being run over by giant bus tires or being flung from the impact and landing in a crumbled bleeding mess. Nothing complicated there.

But is it actually impossible for some to imagine the many ways Trump and the Project 2025 people are going to fuck up everything?

That would certainly explain the bafflingly cavalier reactions to cybersecurity vulnerabilities I've seen over the years. Or the shrugging off of egregious privacy issues.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Wow! He is not pulling any punches lmao. Mike is squirming in his chair behind him.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (4 children)

If y'all didn't see Biden's reaction to Marjorie when he walked in, you NEED to see it! I laughed so hard! Even she tried not to laugh.

https://x.com/timjhogan/status/1765945203867746548?s=20

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

The look that says "Wow! Y'all come in the SAME clown car or just you?" 🤡

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago (9 children)

He should come out to Sabotage by the Beasties Boys. Liven shit up a bit.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

He is utterly manhandling the Republicans.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This Republican Response Senator Katie Britt is unhinged. This is like watching a bad Lifetime TV D-list actor.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I put this in the thread elsewhere, but I think you, personally, will think it's hilarious:

https://twitter.com/tomorrowventure/status/1765952347451130127?t=LZYJ3mF-a_d-3Ssgum4lrQ

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I keep thinking she's just going to burst into tears...

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Her voice was cracking many times. It felt like a bad cut scene in Far Cry 5 with the unhinged cult.

Did you notice she gave the response in the KITCHEN?!? JFC Republicans. I guess it's on brand for them. SMH

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is just genuinely a great speech.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

Aaaaand here's the Republican response...

2 sentences in and she sounds like she's going to cry.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Her: "I'm a mom"

Her constituents: "Rub it in, why dontcha?"

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago (10 children)

What was that fool yelling lol.

Also I don't think I've ever seen anyone get kicked out of the State of the Union lmao

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Katie Britt has the acting skills of a 6th grader. That shit was weak and phony as fuck.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I almost feel bad for Katie Britt having to follow this.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of age, Biden knows how to work a crowd.

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