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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 126 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Same reason recently single women go to Italy, all about that cuisine.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Apparently American women also find Jamaican food absolutely delicious.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Don't even get me started about Colombian "cuisine" 🤤

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[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've never heard this and my friend group consists of a lot of single, middle aged women, but assuming it's true, I'm gonna assume those women are at least sleeping with adults, which cannot be said for every man going to those two countries.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna assume those women are at least sleeping with adults, which cannot be said for...

Boy do I got some news for you...

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Uh, is there some rampant Italian pedophile tourism I've never heard of? Because people keep implying it but I'd love more info without having to sift through what would undoubtedly be about a billion articles about the Catholic church.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Women constitute 10% of pederast tourists.

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[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

~~Not without paying anyway...~~

OH I just realized what you meant.

Oof...

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 105 points 8 months ago (17 children)

I work in a passport office, and any time a guy comes in alone to apply and says he's going to the Philippines, without exception, he's exactly what you'd picture. Some have been pretty upfront about getting married while they're there (one guy showed me a picture and said, "look what I'm marrying," and I'm really proud for not screaming at his phrasing) and some try to keep it stealthy, but it's pretty obvious. We're not sending our best is all I can say.

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[–] natecox@programming.dev 67 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I’d like to go to the Philippines someday, and I really dislike the stereotypes presented that there could only possibly be one reason.

I’ve spent about a quarter of my life training in the martial art arnis; I’m knowledgeable enough that I have taught or helped to teach classes myself. I would love to go to the land where it was born and train with masters there… which just happens to be the Philippines.

I’m also a software developer by trade and have worked with a few people who my company outsourced from the Philippines. A couple of them have really been a delight to work with and I would really like to travel and hang out with them.

It’s irritating that I need to include a wall of text to justify that I may have a non creep reason to want to travel. Thanks a lot, actual creeps ruining things for the rest of us.

[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 28 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The big thing I will say from my experience there: the people are AMAZING. I didn't get ripped off, everyone was so friendly, got to play basketball with a group of kids and had a blast. And the nature is incredible.

It also had some of the most downtrodden areas I've ever seen, some of the biggest displays of wealth disparity, and after a few weeks on different islands, Manilla felt more like a theme park for the rich than any kind of city.

Overall, really recommend it, but try going off the beaten path!

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[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I understand this. I was underemployed for a while, so I was doing tutoring American English online. Since I was working graves, my schedule meant I ended up with clients from SE Asia, China, Japan.

After a few months, I found better work and didn't need to tutor as much. I cut my availability and was down to 2, then one.

The one I still tutor is a Filipina in nursing school. Most people, when they find that out, go straight to the "I'm a creep/She wants a green card" duality.

I get tired of explaining that she actually qualifies for permanent residency as soon as she gets her work visa. She doesn't need me at all to come to the US to work.

There are plenty of legitimate organizations and agencies that help Filipino nurses get jobs and visas at minimal cost above the required fees.

She has mentioned that she'd prefer to live with me and would be open to a relationship with me, even though I am older...much older.

I leave that last bit out when talking to folks because it makes me sound like a creep. I totally get why people would think that.

On the other hand, an attractive, intelligent, hardworking, and fun younger woman is interested in me? It's a challenge to say no to that.

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[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My brother is 26 and his gf is a similar age. Because we're on the other side of the world they've a long distance relationship but he traveled there last year to spend a few months with her. They talk basically all day on a Saturday and Sunday as he works during the week. There's nothing creepy or pedophilic about him yet that's clearly the assumption that would get made when despite being around the same age. And yes I have seen what his gf looks like and she speaks to the rest of the family sometimes too.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 9 points 8 months ago

You know what? Fuck the haters, and go. By being yourself, and going for your own reasons, you are doing a big part to break this ridiculous stereotype.

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[–] Jeze3D@midwest.social 54 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My ex said if we ever broke up he'd be moving to Thailand. Lmao he was a walking middle aged white bro stereotype.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jeze3D@midwest.social 40 points 8 months ago

I fucking wish.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I went to both countries in my twenties and thoroughly enjoyed both. Beyond some overly strong beer in the Philippines and maybe a joint or two in the rural parts of Thailand, I didn't engage in any of the stereotypical behavior, though I definitely saw it.

I guess now that I'm in my fifties, I'm not allowed to go back because it would be a matter of course that I'd pick up some teen bride, right?

But seriously, both countries are so, so beautiful. I've got less than zero desire to ever go to Hawaii after island hopping in the Philippines. As to Thailand, it's just so calm. Like you're not even capable of being stressed there. (Unless of course, you're smuggling drugs around and find yourself on the business end of a prison cell door. Then yer fucked)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Yeah a lot of the stereotypes come from people that spend their entire vacation in the red light district. Interesting that places in Europe that also have red light districts don't get the same reputation. Wonder why that is....

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Coming from Philippines, there are plenty of gold diggers who see foreigners--especially white people-- as easy cash machine. And lonely white Westerners come to lap up the attention, whether or not they realise they are being sought after for money.

Then on the much darker side, foreigners exploit the extreme poverty that locals suffer to exploit trafficked individuals--many of whom are minor pimped by their own family.

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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 17 points 8 months ago

Amsterdam has a similar reputation in the sense (some) tourists come for the red light District and the parties, but it's decidedly missing the "come take advantage of third world women just looking for a way out with any western man" and even less so the pedo side.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Some parts of Europe do get that reputation. More eastern Europe (single German men travelling to the Czech Republic will have to run the gauntlet when comming back). So yeah, doesn't invalidate your argument.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wonder why that is…

SEA is easier and cheaper to exploit than a "first world country", guess that hasn't changed since the end of colonialism

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Man, I just wanna live in a hut for a year by a beach in an island fishing village that Instagram never found. No crowds please, thank you. I want to pay $5 for big bowl of fish, rice, and tropical fruit. I want to snorkel on a coral reef all day, then smoke a bowl and watch the stars all night. I won't even be a lazy slouch. I'll lend a hand to anybody in town with almost anything. And yes, I know these places are long gone now.

Creeping on girls has nothing to do with it.

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Having been to the Philippines can confirm. It’s crazy how many old white dudes just hang out in the sleaziest bars on the sketchiest streets

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 40 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I have a colleague that has a wife from the Philippines. They live in Canada but are building a house there. He said I should come visit, and I replied something about how my wife would love a tropical vacation. He replied:

Bringing your wife on vacation to the Philippines is like bringing a lunchbag to a restaurant.

... ... ... cool.

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[–] gorkur@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I kinda want to go to Thailand to check out the chopper/custom bike scene there as I've both heard good things and seen some nice builds on IG and such.

I also work with a couple of ladies from the Philippines who say I'd love going on a road trip there so I am pretty curious.

This stereotype does give me pause though as 50 keeps creeping up and I really don't want to be labeled as a perv simply for liking motorcycles 🫤

[–] topperharlie@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (9 children)

never take the internet as a reference, I went to Thailand last year and did not see anything weird.

internet reality is not real life reality.

if narrow minded people judge you for something you didn't do just because of some generalised idea, then maybe is better not to be friends with those people. I've travelled alone and not alone to many places, and none of my friends ever thought ill of me.

Whatever the internet kids think I really don't give a shit, as you shouldn't either.

Man, I really hate gatekeeping.

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[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It's always a shame when something you like somewhat overlaps with a stereotype that you don't apply to

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[–] TronnaRaps@lemmy.ca 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't get this? My mind didn't go where it seems others' here went. Is this about men looking for submissive women? Or something more sinister?

[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 80 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (14 children)

Man in 30s married to a half-Filipina woman here. When we went to visit for our honeymoon it was really gross. LOTS of very, very old men with teenage girls.

I had women falling out of their chairs to look at me.

I had a woman literally fall over while trying to ogle me while walking down the street.

For our goodbye dinner, her Ate toasted us by saying "You have fulfilled all our dreams: you've married a white man."

I had several people say how ugly they were because they were Filipino.

EVERY convenience store and super market had skin whitening creams.

It was my first experience of the Philippines and the first experience I had of racial fetishism. My wife got preferential treatment for being Mestizos.

The Spanish did a real number over there with their racial hierarchy bullshit.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I unironically would love to visit Thailand for the cuisine. Then again, if the internet is any indication, I must be the only white man on earth who isn't particularly into Asian women.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

You have something against spaghetti and hot dogs with banana ketchup?

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[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago
[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Funnily enough my roommates dad actually went to Thailand for a bit after his divorce. Then him and his wife moved back here to the US.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Big fans of fruit salad with marshmallows, macaroni and mayonnaise? Cuisine wise the Philippines is what happens when all the professional chefs die and their 5 year old kids just step into the role.

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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Phillipines as well? I only know the stereotypical Thailand pedo tourists. Man, I will hit the 50 in the not so far future. Got to make sure I keep my marriage alive.

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