"IPv6 is not a feature; its absence is a bug"
- Someone on the Flathub repo, I think
this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2023
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Does gitlab.com have it?
Name: gitlab.com
Address: 172.65.251.78
Name: gitlab.com
Address: 2606:4700:90:0:f22e:fbec:5bed:a9b9
I've still never used ipv6. It just never offered anything I needed.
If you live in the USA you don't suffer from the problem it solves because you have ~5 IP v4 addresses per capita (totaling to 41% of all the IP v4 addresses), and likewise many european countries have ~2 per capita (although there are expeptions like Italy and Spain which are a bit under 1 per capita). However many other countries don't have such luxury, for example in india there's one for every 36 people, which is obviously not enough and thus they have to either use NAT everywhere or switch to IPv6.
Have you tried being less poor?
Same. I’m hearing it’s a must-have for like 15 years now. It still obviously isn’t a real must-have.
This is because ISPs keep piling on workaround after workaround in order to scale their use of IPv4, which is working but not without some disadvantages. Also, like other commenters mentioned, the western world have an unfair advantage in IPv4 addresses allocation and thus people living there don't really see any meaningful shortage of IPv4. People in other countries don't have this luxury and have to rely on IPv6 and shitty CGNAT in order to stay online.
This is a little funny, if you think of IPv6 itself as a workaround...
All I know is the last time I tried to pronounce an IPv6 addy, I danged near bit off my tongue.
You got off easy! I almost got stabbed in the heart by a nearby priest. Had to unpublish my name and leave his local area to get away.
They really don't like it when you do neck yoga with an upset stomach from questionable pea soup, especially while reciting MAC addresses.
I've talked to several network engineers over the years about IPv6, engineers that work as hands on with actual production infrastructure as you can get. And they all said that IPv6 would likely never be fully adopted.
But why ?
My understanding is it's no longer that critical. The sky is no longer falling on IPv4
I am not a full network engineer so take my opinion with a grain of salt. From what I understand, NAT with IPv4 works really really well to mitigate IPv4 address exhaustion. Then there's an issue with the amount of extra processing switches and routers need to do IPv6, we're going from 32 bits to 128 bits which is a huge increase and for switches and routers that are handling packets as fast as technically possible with a low amount of resources typically, that's a not insignificant hurdle.
It's just easier to do IPv4 in every way, plus that's what the world's been using and is used to.
comment from the forum:
New ISPs in my country are IPv6-only because there is no new IPv4 space to be provided to them. They do have a over-shared IPv4 address by CGNAT but due to the oversharing, it is unstable and not rare to be offline. For these companies, the internet access is stable only in IPv6.
Thinking about the server-side, some cloud providers are making extra charges for IPv4 addresses (e.g.: Vultr.com) so most of the servers in my company are IPv6-only. Cloning github repositories is very cumbersome due to the lack of IPv6 support and this issue affects me and my team mates on a daily basis.
The math is simple: there are 4.88 billion internet users in the world but the IPv4 space only provides 4 billion addresses. It's over: IPv4 is obsolete and is provided in a legacy mode. Current applications and services must be IPv6 enabled otherwise it should be seen as obsolete. For that matter, Github.com is an obsolete service because it relies on obsolete technology as IPv4.
Funny how different situations can be. I can't get an IPv6 address unless I pay for insanely expensive business tiers.
I had a very small cheap ISP in France (Quantic Telecom) and they didn't even monitor their network for ipv6 issues. I had to report problems myself every other week. They had less than 90% uptime in 2023, so I ended up getting a refund
Oof, imagine having to put a single 9 into your SLA. You would be laughed out of the room in a commercial setting.