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Oh, well fuck HDMI then

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[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hardware person here, these standards groups are getting out of control. They want thousands of dollars from anyone who wants to make anything compatible with their specs and while hardware and drivers are becoming cheaper and easier than ever to get into, they have become the main roadblock.

It's like the MP3 days all over again.

[–] Tathar@pawb.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wanted to implement HDMI on an FPGA dev board last year until I found out that I literally couldn't without getting that license.

[–] Draconic_NEO@pawb.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it possible to make something that's technically compatible with HDMI as long as you don't call it HDMI, or say it uses HDMI. I've seen different projects go that route, maybe you might be able to as well.

[–] protofoxriley@pawb.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i believe you can use the HDMI standards but you cannot use their branding without license

[–] Draconic_NEO@pawb.social 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah that's what I thought.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I've already started preferring displayport for monitors. Now I'm going to prefer monitors without HDMI at all, if they exist.

Any TVs come with DP?

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is displayport a more open standard, or more open source friendly?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

DP is by VESA, who brought you such bangers as VGA, DVI, standardised mounting systems, DDC (which enables EDID), EDID.
Although there is controversy about them not supplying the standards documentation for free, i dont believe it is licences

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Cool, I had no idea! Very good to know ☺️

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Some newer TVs come with DP over USB-C.

There's also the option of getting a DP to HDMI converter. I'm personally waiting for one that supports DP 2.0, along with VRR and HDR10+. There's a DP 1.4 one right now, but AFAIK it uses DSC to display the full 4k120, which isn't lossless.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some newer TVs come with DP over USB-C.

I am very intrigued. Where would I find such a TV?

I think Hisense makes something with it. It's meant to be able to plug in phones directly. Will probably be becoming more common.

[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 4 points 8 months ago

That's a really good question!

[–] l_b_i@yiffit.net 3 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately unlikely to both. The displays all likely have the same controller boards with HDMI support baked in. The TVs are going to be made for people who still have cable and streaming boxes, and unless something has changed, those are all HDMI. Unless a manufacturer not in the forum decides to make a display, I don't really see anything without HDMI existing.

[–] bersl2@furry.engineer 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is this a DRM thing?

(Answer: possibly maybe)