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[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.world 76 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it looks like a shitty game, sounds like a shitty game, and acts like a shitty game, I've got some news for you.

A $70 price tag is usually the cherry on top, too.

[–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A $70 price tag is usually the cherry on top, too.

Anything over $45 is nearly always a giant red flag. It needs 95% on steam for me to consider it. I have found $35 to be a good ballpark that hits games with focused/enjoyable complexity, without the nonsense that comes at higher prices/AAA. You don't even need to consider value for money: they're simply better than more expensive games (most of the time).

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

I picked up Helldivers II recently for £35 and it manages to run, look and play better than any other >£60 game I’ve played recently.

[–] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I need the game to age like wine before I even try it, so I'll probably try baldurs gate 3 in 5-10 years.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 56 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Sometimes it's enough to watch a friend or a youtuber play. My roommate once watched 40 minutes of a review for a super crappy movie to then say "well, I want to check if it's really as bad as I was just told" and proceed to watch the movie itself. After he watched it, he admitted that it was that bad

[–] bratosch@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

Well, it's a good thing he wanted to make up his own mind

[–] ech@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did he say he regretted it? You're making it out like it was a waste of time, but if that's what he wanted to do, why deride him for it?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

I think he did say, but that was more than ten years ago, so he might also not. You're right about doing what one wants, I didn't try to stop him then, wouldn't do it now, too

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you've played enough games you can (generally) tell from the way it's promoted and which friends talk about it

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And sometimes by reputation alone, like Diablo 4

[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I’m upvoting you because I can understand why you made this comment, but as I’ve said in my own comment thread Diablo 4 has a legit game in it at least for casual play.

The story is pretty fucking brutal. The music is good. The gameplay is fairly varied and pretty decently thought out. And if you’re a coomer dat Lilussy is pretty great.

Main flaws are the grindy endgame, itemization issues, and always online. Price is also a factor and $70 is a lot for the game. I recommend to my friends to buy it at $50 and below

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The level scaling is what killed it for me. Not only do you not get more powerful with every level because of the enemies leveling with you for some god forsaken reason, but you actually get weaker because your gear stays the same.

The only thing it has going for it compared to the other Diablo games is the bosses being way more mechanically interesting than in 2/3.

[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Valid criticism, level scaling has always been garbage in most cases. I will say the weak gear is honestly the point of the loot grind. You gotta grind out that good gear, and mid level gear with player skill will carry you until monster level 130. Nightmare Dungeon 100 for me seems like a min maxed difficulty, holy smokes it’s unrelenting

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That's my take too. I also haven't bought nor felt the need to buy the last 3 season battle pass.

For cosmetics. So many cosmetics.

And no cosmetics that make skills look different that at least path of exile has going for it

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

That's like you can't say shit tastes disgusting before trying. Of course you can. Some things are obvious like that.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm having a real hard time finishing Baldur's Gate 3. I wasn't a fan of Larian's other games, but I loved the first Baldur's Gate games. The constant frustration from having to save scum, buggy gameplay, and endless annoying puzzles just makes it a chore. I'll finish it, eventually, but I need a week between sessions to forget.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

People say that it's a heavily polished game but 4/5 of my characters I had to throw away because of some bug that made their build useless, or put the story in a state that I wasn't happy with. And my 20 charisma builds might as well have been 1 charisma because I failed Every. Single. Roll.

If EA put out the exact same game it would have been blasted.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

The biggest fallacy I felt from XCom was putting a miss statistic on everything.

You need to walk to work. You take a step forward. You take a step forward. You take a step forward. (Repeat x 1000) You fail your step forward, fall forwards bending your knee back, and become permanently paralyzed! You’re also still expected at the office.

In an action game, if I miss an enemy with an assault rifle…I just shoot again in the same second.

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 8 months ago

That's 5e, actually. Don't get me wrong you can fail a roll in much better games, but in Pathfinder your character build actually matters. It's an issue with the bounded accuracy, a fundamentally terrible idea for a game (tabletop or otherwise).

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The rolling is so bad. 90% chance to hit? Miss

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] MightyGalhupo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I meant wasteland 1,2,3 ))

[–] shani66@ani.social -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like the game, its plain to see Larian is a skilled developer, but fucking hell the dnd influence is just poison. The setting? Mid outside of the Larian specific writing, wizards have always had uninteresting world building. The underlying the system? Fucking awful, 5e is easily the worst ttrpg i have ever played (out of 8 i think, including a completely homemade game and condensing very similar games). Those rolls you failed? That shit is called bounded accuracy and i have never seen a worse design choice, it's impossible to make a character that actually specializes in something. Every character must be able to succeed and fail and everything.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean honestly I'm fine with people saying they don't like a game they haven't played as long as they have some kind of valid reason. Nothing makes me more angry though then someone saying a game is bad or they don't like it "because the fandom is cringe/bad." Like sure for multiplayer games a bad community can be a fair reason to not like a game but most of the time these comments are about single player games. Which just makes me angry cause no one is forcing you to be involved in a fandom or talk about this game online. Just play it on your own and avoid the online stuff if it really bothers you that much.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Gollum game

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

You know, I do dislike people who aren't willing to give certain games a chance, for what I deem kind of illegitimate reasons. At the same time, most of the bad faith people who are dissing a game because it's the hot button thing, or who are dismissing a game because they saw someone else give their reasons, and thought those were good, those people probably weren't interested in the first place, especially the former group.

What I do hate more than anything, though, is when someone suggests that I need to have watched a movie for it's full 2 or 3 hour runtime before I can make a judgement on it, or that I have to have completed a game before I can make a judgement. Fuck off, I can't be assed to watch or play every dogshit movie or game you're engaging with, just so I can call it shit. You weren't going to believe me anyways, even if I did do that! The same of all what I said in the first paragraph is also true in reverse!

Can't I just talk about a thing without getting enswamped in some dumbass, about how what I'm saying isn't valid? Can't you just contest the claim itself, instead of always blowing it up to be some sort of overarching thing that reaffirms your biases because whomstever is destroying your epic gamer cred? Gat dahmn. I just wanna be able to talk about games, and what I like and don't like, without having to put the "oh all of what I'm saying is subjective" disclaimers everywhere. Can we go back to that? Can I not have to, redditor style, post about every possible alternative angle someone could attack me from for a second? Can people be also try to at least be funny when they're mad on the internet?

[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I had this happen to me recently. Suggested Diablo 4 as a really fun, if a bit mindless grind, action game. People around started parroting outright fabrications about the game. Look it has flaws but shit if you wanna kill packs of demons to a neat story with great cinematics it’s a fun game

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People around started parroting outright fabrications about the game

Like what?

[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pay to win mechanics (not true, predatory cosmetics yeah I’ll give you that), “woke shit” (??? Gruesome murder is woven throughout the story so how is that woke? Oh no there are other skin colors in the game /s) , and a couple of other things I can’t remember.

The game has flaws no doubt. It’s still a solid 8/10, maybe even an 8.5.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I get annoyed at how quickly people parrot the cash shop line without genuine analysis.

Like, yes, Ubisoft games often have a cash shop feature hidden in a menu that I often miss until 40 hours in. It’s usually dumb, and provides nothing of value or interest, the cosmetics not even being interesting.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What game are we talking about here

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I ran into a number of people that said things about CP2077 that showed they didn't actually play the game or at least play beyond the prologue. I mean, FFS, someone made a mod (one of the first mods for the game period) to holster your weapon when the game shipped with that feature.

[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m glad I got into Cyberpunk 2.0 instead of launch, but the story itself was dope to me. I can handle jank for a good story

[–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 8 months ago

There wasn't even that much jank at launch, it was mostly people playing on massively underpowered hardware (which is sorta in cd, they did l shouldn't have ever considered outdated console releases)

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

The industry has been pushing out the same games for almost 20 years now. Sure, there are sprinklings of new here and there, but on the whole, the big titles are the same ones we played 15+ years ago.

The same shit is happening in Hollywood.

[–] LazyBane@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Why risk experiencing somthing potentially bad when you can get all your opinions second hand?

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 1 points 8 months ago

That is why I never talk shit about Starfield. I was never going to play it.

[–] TheNitroZeus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Some gamers are incredibly toxic. I don't paste much shared content anymore in certain private FB groups because of the level of negativity people show towards games they haven't played but seeming have to dogpile on at any opportunity. Fuck those guys.