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I just got my home server up and running and was wondering what you guys recommend for backups. I figure it will probably be worth having backups on cloud servers tjay are external, are there any good services yall use for that?

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[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Backblaze b2, borgbase.com. There are also programs like dejadup that will let you backup to popular cloud drives. The alternatives are limitless.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Regardless of service, if you don't test your backups, you have none.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ehhh I would say then you have probabilistic backups. There's some percent chance they're okay, and some percent chance they're useless. (And maybe some percent chance they're in between those extremes.) With the odds probably not in your favor. 😄

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Schrodinger's backups.

[–] pacjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not so much about testing, but one time I really needed to get to my backups I lost password to the repository (I'm using restic). Luckily a copy of it was stored in bitwarden, but until I remembered it, were perhaps one of the worst moments.

Needless to say, please test backups and store secrets in more then one place.

[–] johntash@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

rsync.net is great if you need something simple and cheap. Backblaze B2 is also decent, but does have the typical download and API usage cost.

[–] cctl01@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Duplicati to Backblaze B2 for the important stuff. For as far as the media library goes, no backup just local raid setup...

[–] hollyberries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Duplicati connected to Storj with data volumes that incrementally get backed up once per month. My files don't change very often, so monthly is a good balance. Not counting my Jellyfin library, those backups are around 1 TB. With the Jellyfin library, almost 15 TB.

Earlier this year, I recovered from a 100% data loss scenario, as I didn't (and still don't) have space for physical backups. I have a 25 TB allowance, so my actual cost was €0. If I had to pay, it would have been under €1.

[–] alligatorSoup@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean 25TB as the storj site says 25gb? Did some promotion give you that much free?

[–] hollyberries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Definitely 25 TB. I've used the service for a long time, since before they accepted credit cards. I attached my credit card one day and got a bump to 25 TB. Since that happened, I pay basically nothing and my account is still 100% storj token funded.

Edit: I dug up screenshots I sent someone recently

[–] Deebster@lemmyrs.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

my account is still 100% storj token funded

That seems to be the key bit, since everyone can use up to 25TB (if they can pay for it). Are you also hosting a node to earn ~~credits~~ tokens?

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That looks like a cool setup, but I would never trust important data to some crypto shit (Storj) no matter what kind of track record they have.

That's fair. I'm 100% onboard the decentralisation train, and do my hardest to practice what I preach. In the event that the service does go bust, I can make a backup on a different S3 compatible service immediately as long as my working copy is intact. The likelihood of the backup service AND the working copy dying at the exact same time would be my cue to take up knitting.

[–] kennyboy55@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have an unraid server which hosts an docker image of Duplicacy. It is paid though for the web interface. And it backs up to Backblaze B2. I have roughly 175GB backed up, for which I pay $0.87 a month.

[–] lal309@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you have other clients backing up to your unraid? I’m looking for a complete solution to backing up end user workstations (windows, Mac and Linux) to my unraid server then backing up my unraid server to something like wasabi, Amazon, backblaze, etc. Preferably a single solution.

[–] Rakn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look into Veeam. The free version should be enough for this workflow.

[–] kennyboy55@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I have another server automatically rsyncing important config files to a nfs share. And my pc has a samba share where I manually backup files to.

[–] vegetaaaaaaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Qu4ndo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Borgbase with Borgmatic (Borg) as the Software. As far as I know the whole Borgbase Service is from a Homelab guy (with our needs in mind).

Also 3-2-1 rule!

[–] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My truenas backs up to B2 Backblaze. Set it up years ago and haven't touched it since.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(you should test your backups)

You may have, but this is a friendly reminder just in case.

[–] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I have. I work in tech, so I know better :)

[–] shadowbert@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Duplicati, to a friend's home server who lives in another town.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate to ask the scary question, but have you tried to restore your backups before? I used Duplicati and discovered that none of my backups were usable and ended up switching to Duplicacy.

[–] shadowbert@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

An important question though.

I have, when I first set it up, and again once when I needed to.