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Owners say they are noticing orange stains on the stainless steel panels of their new Cybertrucks.

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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Others are in favor of their Cybertrucks developing orange stains, saying that they’re looking forward to the patina the stainless steel may develop.

LOL - that's some straight up 🤡 shit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

High on copeium.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I fucking love patina on vehicles so much. This is definitely clown shit but point me towards a vehicle with copper panels and you can take all my money.

[–] Dieinahole@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Ooh, that sounds hot as hell.

Make it yourself!

Maybe rivet pennies like scalemail on an existing car

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When does the Cybertruck: limited COR-TEN® Steel edition come out?

[–] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

After the Cybertruck aluminum and cardboard edition. For that derelique fashion

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago

Hey Cybertruck, you can derelique my balls!

[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In particular, oil and acidic soiling, such as tar or bird droppings, should be cleaned immediately with an alcohol-based solvent. Immediately afterwards, rinsing with clear water or a pH-adjusted soap is recommended. This type of cleaning should be necessary after every longer ride.

Nah.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Next thing it'll demand you feed it nuclear pellets

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Anyone who's worked with stainless could have told you that would happen 🤷

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 9 months ago

To be fair, a patina of rust will make it easier to imagine oneself as some kind of grimdark postapocalyptic warlord or something.

[–] WantsToPetYourKitty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

From Tesla's owners manual, referenced in the article:

Immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, tree resin, dead insects....

I find it really funny that the folks at Tesla consider grease to be "corrosive".

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

About the same level of quality as their software, it seems.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Never buy the first version of anything, especially something from musk.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Never buy ~~the first version of~~ anything, ~~especially something~~ from musk.

[–] CheeseChief@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uh.... they're Stainless not Rust-less, duh.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe it's stain less... it stains less, but it still stains.

[–] CheeseChief@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

So, stain "less", not stain "proof"

[–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For a couple years I worked at a company that mainly sold fasteners. Think nuts and bolts for residential, commercial and industrial use. They came in different grades (strength), materials and coatings based on usage (for example indoor or outdoor use).

I was told by other sales associates that "stain less" was more accurate than "stainless." The reason being that if you expose stainless steel to water long enough, it will rust. However, it will take significantly longer to stain/rust compared to plain steel.

You want to use stainless steel in places where things will come into contact with water but not in situations where it will be submerged in water or exposed to the elements for long periods of time.

Your joke was pretty much how I was taught about stainless fasteners.

Sadly, no amount of money can teach a billionaire such simple things.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but it's rusting because of the owners doing shit, or it is a design problem?

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Stainless steel, by definition, shouldn't rust. This has nothing to do with the owners.

[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Stainless steel is resistant to a certain degree of corrosion depending on the specific type of steel. If Tesla went with a steel that's resistant enough to handle rainwater but not resistant enough to handle salted roads or salty maritime air then their cars can rust even if they're made with genuine stainless steel.

Of course that still means they chose the wrong steel.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Stainless steel rusts easily, especially in the presence of salt. It's stain less, not rust proof.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was in rain for 2 days. It shouldn't rust after only 2 days.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Rain, maybe some left over road salt, sand, and constant vibration and abrasion... It's gonna rust. Maybe not a lot, but it will.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not after 2 days. High grade stainless steel, which these trucks are obviously not using, will take a lot longer than that even with abuse. That's the entire point of stainless steel.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you know why stainless steel is not used in sea ships?

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you know that 316 grade stainless steel exists, and that sea water has nothing to do with a truck that was rained on for 2 days? Seriously, bringing up irrelevant shit does not make your argument better...

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

316 is not resistant to warm sea water https://www.aalco.co.uk/datasheets/Stainless-Steel-14401-316-Bar-and-Section_37.ashx

The rain itself is not a problem, but many roads around the world are sprinkled with salt during winter. Water + salt means your truck turns into a rust pile. The only one talking shit here is you, kiddo.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was raining, not snowing, so there was no salt. One person found it started rusting after washing with soap and water. There is no excuse for this. Bringing up irrelevant shit does not make your argument better, and neither does implying that I'm just young and don't know what I'm talking about. Try reading the article before spouting off.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

It’ll still rust dude, it’s only a matter of time depending on grade.

There is no such thing as rust proof steel, just steel that takes longer to rust in perfect conditions….

[–] brezel@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Stainless steel, also known as inox, corrosion-resistant steel (CRES) and rustless steel

Don't give me that bullshit. If a kitchen sink that sees water every day doesn't rust, neither should a $100K+ truck.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

known as rustless steel

Corrosion resistance Although stainless steel does rust, this only affects the outer few layers of atoms, its chromium content shielding deeper layers from oxidation.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

If they had picked the correct grade of stainless steel, it wouldn't rust just by being outside. Cheaper grades rust, higher grades don't.

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Your kitchen sink isn't exposed to the elements like a vehicle is. You ever seen stainless industrial sinks? They don't always look so great after 10-20 years of abuse.

If these trucks are exposed to salt on the roads during winter weather they probably won't fair well. Even stainless steel is prone to corrosion and ought to be painted or plated.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

You're comparing 10 years of rough abuse with metal being thrown into them constantly as well as all the acids and salts used in cooking against a year of just existing outside.

Edit: it's not even a year outside...it was 2 days.

One Cybertruck Owners Club forum member says they started noticing small orange flecks appearing on his truck after driving it in the rain for just two days.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do the ions from the salts form acids that react with the metal?

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

If I understand correctly (and I hope I do with a degree in chemistry), it's moreso the long periods of exposure to wet environments. If those environments also include frequent exposure to salt it expediates the transfer of electrons to the outer surface of the stainless steel and causes oxidation.

Oxidation/rust/petina isn't a bad thing. A thin outer layer of rust is sometimes used as an aesthetic preservative in architecture though. There are buildings that have heavy surface rust on them intentionally.

Probably not what you'd expect or desire on a vehicle, but very much possible. I wonder how the DeLorean DMC-12 held up in nasty conditions?

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Put something rusty in contact with that sink for a little while and get back to us.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have. I scrubbed the rust off with steel wool. As long as you don't leave rusted iron against stainless steel for years, it's fine. And that's not what's happening here.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So… you’ve experienced stainless rusting first hand and yet claim it doesn’t rust…?

Stainless rusts, fucking hell lmfao.

It doesn’t matter that it’s not what’s happening, it rusts. It’s that simple, any imperfection from salt or iron oxide (from rocks in asphalt) is a place for rust to start.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

The stainless steel didn't rust. The cast iron pan was accidentally left on the corner of the sink for a weekend with a little water under it. The rust wiped off very easily, because it was transfered from the iron into it, which is all that's happening as long as it's not left there for a significant amount of time.

The truck was driven in rain, with no snow or salt involved, and began rusting after 2 days. That's a low grade of stainless steel to rust that fast.