Beehaw mods had issues moderating a flood of new users and low quality posts from here. As they put it, it was more “we don’t have the tools and staff to handle tons of new people” and less “we don’t like SIJW”.
this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2023
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Good explanation.
If I remember correctly they defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works because they were two huge and largely unmoderated instances but did say that they'd like to refederate if solid moderation was put in place.
The SIJW admin and them had talks and agreed that they'd refederate when Lemmy would have decent moderation tools that allowed for that, which hasn't happened yet.
If what you're saying is accurate, and these huge communities are largely unmoderated, then we have a pretty outstanding community here on Lemmy. Can you imagine the hate, vitriol, and absolute trash that would be visible if Twitter or Reddit were unmoderated? Yes we have some weird opinions and content, but nothing I've seen is overtly dangerous or hateful. Pretty cool, Lemmy. Pretty cool.
A lot of it is self-selecting IMO. We're big enough to have a good sized community, but we aren't so big as to become a big target. That will change as Lemmy gets bigger, but it least for now, it's small enough that the trolls probably don't get enough attention to bother sticking around.
If you want trash, you can find it on Lemmy, just check the list of most defederated instances. You don't see it because... well, they're defederated, which itself is one of the moderation tools available in the Fediverse.
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I hope we'll get to a place where they'll refederate with us. They have some really interesting communities. I didn't sign up for an account there because I wasn't willing to write a 7 page essay and take the blood oath to be admitted. I'm exaggerating... a little.
They want to be the "Elks Lodge" of the fediverse and that's totally fine. They were pretty transparent about their reasons for defederating with us and their reasons were understandable.
You’re not missing too much unless you like the news discussion. Im subbed to all their communities and most of the posts outside of news is pretty lame.
They can’t downvote anything so that’s really weird. Like I get that they want everyone to have a positive experience but how the fuck do you combat spam, irrelevant submissions or bullshit comments? The lean too heavily on moderation which is why they can’t scale with the fediverse so they defederated because their mods can’t handle the work load.
We all know what the simplest solution would be but I won’t say the quiet part out loud 😅
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The Beehaw admins made this choice, and documented their rationale here: https://beehaw.org/post/567170
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Just popping up real fast to say, it's a pleasure seeing screenshots of my site while randomly scrolling through my feed. Thanks for using it!
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Let beehaw do beehaw things and don't worry too much about it.
What is the name of this app?
defed.xyz
Site's dead?
Edit: Here's another site that lists blocks...
A classic case of Lemmy hugged to death
Lemmy hugs are more like gentle caresses
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Beehaw defederated everyone lmao
The didn't defederate from instances that require approval to join, e.g. Midwest.social
To add to what others have said, the reason beehaw defederated is because they have particular rules (eg no downvotes) that they're very strict about to ensure that their instance is the safe space they want it to be. It's not so much that lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works users were acting up against beehaw, just that beehaw expects users to be very well behaved in their instance.
My experience on Beehaw so far is that 80% of them are nice and 20% of them are Portlandia characters.
What about infosec.pub?
I have an alt there, the admin defederated due to the infamous literal shit spammer.
It might be worth informing him that the issue has been solved
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