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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.basedcount.com/post/113726

I couldn't find any tools to check this, so I built one myself.

This is a little site I built: the Defederation Investigator defed.xyz. With it, you can get a comprehensive view of which instances have blocked yours, as well as which ones you are federated with.

The tool is open source and available on GitHub. Hopefully someone will find it useful, enjoy.

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[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 63 points 1 year ago

You should probably cache results so users aren’tspamming other instances

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 28 points 1 year ago

Looks like the usage may have gone over Vercel's usage policy (I'm not super familiar with Vercel)? I see the following when trying to bring it up:

402: PAYMENT_REQUIRED 
Code: DEPLOYMENT_DISABLED
[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's very useful, thank you @Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com

Just to note if copying the URL you have to strip off the https:// or else it won't work (maybe people just don't copy that these days, but I ran in to that problem anyway).

[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh yeah that is true. This was a one afternoon project, so I kinda threw the frontend together without thinking too much of it. I guess truncating the protocol instead of relying on the users doing it makes sense.

[–] infamousbelgian@waste-of.space 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also: tested it on mobile. And my probe capitalized the first letter, returning an “instance not found”.

[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noted, adding a forced .toLowerCase(). I'm implementing all of the feedback I've received thus far right now.

[–] infamousbelgian@waste-of.space 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 1 year ago

@infamousbelgian@waste-of.space @Mane25@feddit.uk both changes have been pushed and deployed, thank you for your feedback.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I couldn't find any tools to check this, so I built one myself.

Literally the first link on join-lemmy.org has a table showing all instances and it shows both how many instances that instance is blocking "and* how many other instances are blocking that instance

https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

how many instances that instance is blocking "and* how many other instances are blocking that instance

how's that helpful if you don't know which ones

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[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok, it seems to be working 😆

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

even lemmynsfw defederated them, lol 🤣 why?

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they are are extremely obnoxious mix of tankies and some other leftists who might have been slightly less obnoxious if they were on their own, but being in the group with said tankies, you don't want them any more than the former

i apologize for grammar structure of my sentence and hope it makes some sense

if you have few days of time to kill you can check this thread where lemm.ee admin is asking lemm.ee users about their opinion on defederating them. they brigade the thread in such a way they make more than 77% of the 2k comments in the thread (not exaggerating - the thread has 1920 comments when viewed from lemm.ee and 425 when viewed from lemmy.world which blocks them) and explain their philosophy in the process. so you will understand stuff like "who absolutely needs to be murdered for the crime of having more money than you in order to make world more just place & other tankies' wisdom".

you have to acknowledge that they did really good job of introducing themselves, though - i had no idea they even existed the day before that thread and i am firm proponent of "defederate. now." today 😆

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

No better boner killer than people spamming mao's dong.

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

I normally hate the whole de-federation thing, but the radlib chapocels there are annoying af.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh I forgot about this community. Thank you for spreading the word.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

You are welcome, thank you for your work!

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, bookmarked!

Just linking a similar tool because I haven't seen it being mentioned yet: https://fba.ryona.agency/

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just linking a similar tool because I haven’t seen it being mentioned yet: https://fba.ryona.agency/

It's made by kiwifarms though, they even included their favorite word at the end of the page.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s made by kiwifarms though

I didn't know, thanks for letting me know. I frankly do not care though, in the exact same way that I do not care that Lemmy is made by tankies.

The interesting bit would be how people with these extreme agencies abuse these tools or their users to further their goals.

As I see it, both cases are questionable people providing useful tools free for me to use. Wether I use these tools or not, has what impact in regards to their agenda? I certainly would not like to be a pawn in their game, or support their cause without consent.

If you think that's what happens, please show me. That would be very interesting to know and might lead to me ceasing usage / recommendation.

[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As I see it, both cases are questionable people providing useful tools free for me to use.

Lemmy devs may have controversal political views, but their software is written with a good intention. KiwiFarms on the other hand use it to target instances.

If you think that’s what happens, please show me. That would be very interesting to know and might lead to me ceasing usage / recommendation.

I just see no reason to use a tool made by controversial people with awful intention if there's a good alternative with no such controversies. But you can decide for yourself, I just wanted to inform.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy devs may have controversial political views, but their software is written with a good intention. KiwiFarms on the other hand use it to target instances.

Not just that, in all interactions with them, I've never found the devs to be anything but respectful.

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[–] ram@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago

What I'd really like to have is a tool that lists blocked communities. That information is not as public as defederated instances.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

6 instances have. Out of 1350ish.

A total of 29 users. Oh my.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

aaaand it's down. worked this morning but now it fails with PAYMENT_REQUIRED

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

any reason why sopuli.xyz isn't included?

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[–] iso@lemy.lol 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait why is “dubvee.org” defederated from my instance? Interesting…

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] iso@lemy.lol 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don’t have any contact info, I guess I should PM from another instance.

Its really strange since there is no porn, controversial opinions or else on the instance.

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