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Really amazes me how our government handles situations like these in the worst ways possible. Really hope the idiots at the top of the ladder get some braincells and see how stupid this whole debacle is
The block order hasn't been initiated """yet""" but knowing the stance the Indian Government has on encryption as a whole, it's not much to go with.
Say the service does get blocked then the app will be available through F-Droid but the website will most likely be blocked by most ISPs. if any Indian user still wishes to continue using PM if a block order is initiated then they'll most likely have to use a VPN or a proxy server or through Tor. It'll also be possible to access the website if they use a different DNS.
I'm really hoping it doesn't end up being banned but seeing how the Indian government banned VLC a few years ago (unbanned it later on however) for the stupidest reasons possible.... Yeah it doesn't exactly induce much confidence....
I'm pretty sure that most people who are using Proton Mail are technologically savvy enough to bypass whatever half assed measure the government puts in place.
I agree! But it's still an issue as there are quite a few proton mail users who just wish to achieve a tad bit more privacy and aren't tech savvy. I know some folks like that myself and tbh sometimes all the technical stuff or going through hoops can just be very daunting/overwhelming at times
the same thing happened when the indian government banned porn
They never will, we have to vote them out.
And whom do we vote in. The congress and the others are full of idiots as well. Unfortunately no smart honest person will go into Indian politics because they know that between the beauracracy and the corruption, there is no way they make an useful change.
I don't know either, but from what I know, bureaucracy and corruption is often a result of bad organizational structure. Some "designated officer" raises a finger which gets approved by the Secretary who is appointed by the minister who is appointed by the PM who is nominated by the Lok Sabha, and we lose yet another privacy protecting service. I think we should have more direct control in these matters.
For now, if we cannot expect a proper functioning web, they cannot expect stability under their seats. Vote them out.
Indeed and as the reply above you mentioned, whom do we vote? If there is a truly good party here, It's either too unknown or too small so I suppose we can just hope for the best
I'd vote for a purely retaliatory reason. So they know that the support they have isn't as ironclad as they'd assume. But I also have bailed from there so..... ¯_(ツ)_/¯
no smart honest person will go into ~~Indian~~ politics
But jio aldready blocks all the vpns right so i guess tor or other careers which i am guessing will follow in jio's way and i fucking switched to jio yesterday from airtel 🤦
that sucks, I've never used Jio so I didn't know that. The ISP that I use doesn't really block VPNs so that's good I guess lol
Yeah i am gonna switch back asap any suggestion ?
Wasn't my experience. My cell was Jio and so was the home internet, and ProtonVPN seemed to work just fine.
That's assuming the whole thing wasn't manufactured to create an excuse to ban encrypted emails.
nah that thought crossed my mind too, I wouldn't be surprised if it was for that reason tbh
I think you expect too much from Indian boomers
Man, can’t wait to see what they do to ban those that manufacture knives the next time someone gets attacked by a criminal with one. /s
well they blocked every porn site in india for a different but equally stupid reason.
Well i just checked because of your comment and no they are'nt banned i think the law goes something like you can't watch it in public or something.
Nah they are positively blocked, if you try to access them you'll be hit by "The website has been blocked as per direction/order of Hon’ble Court."
Really ? I guess you must be right . Or some specific carriers are blocking anyway i don't wanna check by going into one of those sites.
Yeah I didn't wanna check either haha but yes porn sites are blocked by most ISPs afaik
Was there last month, blocked. 🙃🙃🙃
Are they going to ban phones if someone uses one of those for the same purpose?
Btw Internet Freedom Foundation (or the IFF) filed several RTI requests (RTI = Request to information) regarding this situation. If anyone wants to follow their progress then here’s their Mastodon account: https://mastodon.world/@internetfreedom@mas.to
The IFF is a highly trustworthy and well respected organization that fights for Indians digital rights and democratic freedoms. They’ve done a lot of good work over the years, they even helped VLC to get unblocked when it was banned in India.
I am not on mastodon sadly they seems to be good
yes they are! and no worries, you can still view their toots and see if their RTI requests have been responded to
Why tf did they block vlc?
Here's their toot mentioning the situation with Proton Mail: https://mastodon.world/@internetfreedom@mas.to/111935324571240375
India is slowly becoming their neighbor everyday
Sadly yes, this digital authoritarianism is very concerning and immensely worrying
Not just digital sadly. 😮💨😮💨😮💨
They probably typed it with a keyboard. They should ban them too.
Will they also be blocking other proton services¿?
Nope, not yet at least....
Good. I will use proton VPN to get over this bullshit ban
I don't use a VPN much as I don't have the budget to buy a subscription to a decent VPN(not that I know which VPNs are decent and which are bad). I was just making a tongue in cheek comment about using a proton service to overcome a proton service ban
Does anybody know how to email people at MeitY and complain about this decision. The official website has no useful information
Thanks, Indian government. You've convinced me to sign up for Proton Mail
Blocking committee lol