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[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

4% of people are completely uncultured and don't realize "You can literally talk to animals!"

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can do other things with animals too.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

I can BE ONE!

[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Lick that spider.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 4 points 1 year ago

I like to kick em and take their corpse.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It deserves it. It's not a perfect game, but it's a hell of a good one and it is incredibly satisfying to play.

My biggest gripe is that save scumming often feels absolutely necessary because you'll unknowingly get yourself into situations that you just can't push through without reloading or your whole party dying.

A good DM knows that games are most fun when the party barely scrapes by, but doesn't die until the end game. If they could have implemented some sort of dynamic difficulty that adjusted background rolls and enemy decisions to keep the player pushing forward, it would have felt much more satisfying.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think some things could be fixed by having party members able to butt into conversations.

Like Asto turning on the charm for a charisma check, or have Karlach threaten to cut somebody's plums off if they don't let us in.

For a party based game with so many cutscenes, you feel weirdly on your own as soon as you start one.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I think that's one of the biggest complaints people have had of the dialogue system. It's really annoying to have a person in your party who could nail the conversations, but not be able to use them.

Especially when you walk into a conversation with a person specifically interested in one of your party members, but that specific member just has to stand there silent.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

It’s as close to a perfect game as we’re getting nowadays.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree about the same scrumming. Particularly in the beginning when I had low level characters, I would think I was being clever and bypass some section only to accidentally wander into a a bunch of hostiles that far outnumbered my group and repeatedly get massacred.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It definitely has plenty of flaws, but the good things heavily outweigh the bad.

I mean just the shear scope of that game is crazy. It's very ambitious .There are so many dialog options. I've tried to explore as much as I can in my first playthrough but I can tell there's a lot of content that I've missed.

Can't wait to do a second run.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as I agree with your opinion on save scumming, truth is all of the Infinity Engine games were like this as well. Even if you're a seasoned D&D player, it's all too easy to get completely wiped in the dungeon at the beginning of BG2 to an imp because barely any of your party's attack rolls are successful at Lvl 1.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but thats worse. They never learned from it.

[–] seukari@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Balders Gate 2 was developed by Bioware and published by Interplay. That's not to say Larian couldn't have learned from it anyway, but it's not a lesson they would have learned from experience.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's why you play in honor mode :p

All jokes aside, I had the most blast playing the game when going in blind on a Dark Urge playthru with honor mode.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a good dm that fudge rolls and adjust difficulty. It's a dm you like. And it's a game you like.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not fudging roles, it's making NPC decisions that help keep the game moving forward.

A party of actual players would not be very happy with a DM that killed everyone in the first two hours of playing. Which is exactly what happened when I played BG3. Quickly taught me to save often and reload when I realize I'm completely losing a fight.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Going that way, there's no reason to completely lose a fight in BG3. You can flee and resurrect everyone, unlike in most tabletop games.

Which leads to what I was saying : if tpk is the doing of the party, through its decisions, carelessness and/or poor play, they deserve to die.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Don't tell the forums that, they're convinced it's an unplayable woke government ops pathetic remake zoophilia kissing simulator insult to d&d. It's got so many bugs you can't play it on anything short of a super computer, and is targeting children with it's addicting gameplay and low system requirements.

Every day there's a new 3 page screed expanding each of the above adjectives into paragraphs of garbage. Yet somehow most of the authors don't own the game, and it's has a overwhelmingly positive rating...

[–] explodicle@local106.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It did have a "literally unplayable" save deletion bug on Xbox until recently. I just waited for them to fix it before spending my money.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I played 100+ hours on Xbox before that was patched and never had a problem so "literally unplayable" is really a bit much.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A bunch of less lucky people did exactly that and then lost 100+ hours of progress.

It's an essential feature of the game. Literally. Unplayable.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@local106.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm just saying I LITERALLY PLAYED it during that whole time so it LITERALLY wasn't UNPLAYABLE.

🤡

[–] stoned_ape@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I love BG3 as a video game, but I feel like Hasbro is going to take a lot of the ideas and try their best to translate them into the trrpg space and shittify both on the way through.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

And it's always people that have private profiles.
If you're profile is private on steam you're automatically disregarded.

[–] dsemy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBH it's really not that surprising, just classic gatekeeping - cRPGs were very niche for a long time and those people dislike the fact many new people are suddenly interested in them because of this game.

I kinda get it in a way, I think some other games in the genre deserve this success more, but at the end of the day it's still better than most of the shit released lately.

[–] ghashul@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got any examples? I've been a crpg fan since my teens, but there's so many I haven't tried. Any game that deserve success more than bg3 is a game I should probably give a shot!

[–] dsemy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think Pillars of Eternity is way better than BG3 - I prefer its combat, story, writing and art style. It's also a very big game, fairly similar to BG3 I think. It also has a sequel which I haven't played yet.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is the opposite. Don't dare criticize or say you dislike BG3 or else they will come for you.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Video game forums are always garbage.

But partially in their defense, it makes my 4070 work and the only other time it gets that warm is when I'm running stable diffusion on it constantly.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just gonna hang back for that first big price drop.

[–] fan0m@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly it's worth it at full price.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. This is one of those situations where I actually want to vote with my wallet if I can. They made a stellar game, it want them to make a shitload of money. That's the only way we're going to get another game of BG3 quality.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's worth it full price. On GOG. Play it with a 4 player party on one copy. Then buy more copies once there is a sale / once you want to support the devs.

[–] Fish@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

Why do you need so many copies?

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This really is one of those games that’s worth it at full price. Save waiting on a sale for the half-finished games that shouldn’t be priced as high as they are.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I mean, I'm sure it is. It sounds like people like it.

But bruh. I'm just getting through Witcher three in my back catalogue.

Like it can wait in the steam store for me to play it instead of waiting in my steam library for me to play it

[–] MoistBalls@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still have to find the time to complete this game one day.

I think the biggest draw toward BG3 is the replay-ability!

I think I had 200+ hr on my first play through, but I made decisions, that I won't say for spoiler reasons, that cut off multiple entire story lines that I have read are another ~80hrs + of playtime! Super cool, in my opinion.

The players actions CHANGE the world, many games have strived for this, although few have achieved. BG3 achieved!

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I loved Divinity:OS/2 and figured if BG3 was even half as good, it would be worth the money. Waited until it was out of Early Access, then bought it. Worth every euro. And the soundtrack is a masterpiece! Not that I expected any different.

[–] cafuneandchill@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Played it a little bit (up to the goblin fort part), was pretty neat. Fights take a long ass time to resolve, but you can get pretty creative with them.

Now, this might be a personal thing, but the game somehow doesn't really have that fantasy feel? It's like playing Mass Effect with a fantasy paint coating over it, rather than playing an actual fantasy game. I hope I'm making sense here, lol. From my point of view, a work of fiction with a good fantasy atmosphere is all about that personal tranquil, solemn journey rather than bombastic adventures, romance or whatever. It's the kind of mood that you get while listening to dungeon synth -- a genre directly inspired by classic fantasy. Lunacid is a good example of what I am talking about.

Another point of contention for me is the disk size of the game. Now that I have more of disk space available to me, I could give it another chance, though

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I always get the feeling that D&D's Forgotten Realms is a more goofy kind of fantasy, like everything you want is possible. It's about imagination and self-expression, rather than setting strict rules for how things work. Makes sense imo, they want it to be the world that you use to create your own stories for P&P games, so it should have many different facets and can't be too limiting.

[–] cafuneandchill@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's probably it

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another point of contention for me is the disk size of the game. Now that I have more of disk space available to me

I was going to say, do people even really care about drive space anymore these days, considering how inexpensive it is.

[–] cafuneandchill@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really keep up with the hardware market, so I have no idea; I'm a laptop user

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t really keep up with the hardware market, so I have no idea; I’m a laptop user

Well, generally speaking, you can always upgrade the hard drive on your laptop too, if and when you need more space.

So you might want to keep up on it, at least the pricing of replacement hard drives, for when you need more space.

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