Privacy

31954 readers

519 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
Don't promote proprietary software
Try to keep things on topic
If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
Be nice :)

Related communities

Chat rooms

[Matrix/Element]Dead
Discord

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

Why is CalyxOS consider more private than Graphine, but Graphine is more secure? (pricefield.org)

submitted 1 year ago by skymtf@pricefield.org to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

12 comments fedilink hide all child comments

I read a post here a while back claiming that graphine is less private but somehow more secure. Of course the only person I have to ask is the graphine Matrix who claims are the opposite of this. Generally my main concern about Calyx is it's Fake google play thing. Apparently this is less private than graphineOS's sandboxed google play since it is still connecting to Google, and is just as privileged as Google play usually is.

all 14 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] black_mouflon@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think what I've heard (more or less) is that they are equally private but GrapheneOS is more secure. I don't remember what the justification was though. I'm interested to see what replies your question gets.

I've always seen CalyxOS as the version that is the more user friendly (easier installation, better support. At least as of few years ago. Things migh have changed now.)

Personally what I question is the choice of GrapheneOS to use sanboxed Google play services rarher than the open source alternative micro-G. I can't see how that's better.

[–] Carter@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

GrapheneOS has an incredibly easy installation as it's entirely done through your browser (though it doesn't work on Firefox unfortunately).

As for Sandboxed Google Play versus MicroG, I believe app compatibility is much better. It's not perfect as I've come across multiple apps that simply don't work on Graphene but I hear the situation is a lot worse with MicroG. There have also been quite a few instances in the past of MicroG leaking data it shouldn't be.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

though it doesn't work on Firefox unfortunately

~~un~~fortunately!

They don't allowing websites access to USB devices for a reason.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

CalyxOS installation is also extremely easy now. These projects have come a long way in terms of accessibility and it's awesome to see.

[–] black_mouflon@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the Sanboxed Google play services, I would imagine is still closed sourced. Right? If true, just accounting for trying to minimize closed sorced software on device, Micro-g must be strictly better, in that one issue at least.

[–] Carter@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Sandboxing it means it doesn't have any elevated privileges like MicroG has so it gets less data. MicroG still gives Google the information they're after, just proxies through alternative services I believe.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago

Honestly anything without google is good

[–] jungleben@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Graphene has been good at getting security and feature updates out the door quicker. For that reason (and that google telemetry will happen no matter what OS), it's much more secure.