"Mastodon? Why use a free decentralized option when I can give my data to a billionaire?" - People around me.
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"What could possibly happen?"
Surely this one won't end up the same as all the others before.
There are some advantages to a centralized platform, I hope them being a "public benefit corporation" (haven't had time to study what that means nor much desire cause it's probably a U.S. thing), but as long as it doesn't get enshittifed that's still a net win.
Although obviously this won't be a popular opinion on a decentralized platform like Lemmy.
I'll use this along with Signal (which is non profit), in hopes that it's impossible for them to sell out/sell our data/sell ads.
I don’t think Bluesky is better than any instance on Fediverse, but we need to make changes I guess.
If it kills Twitter it will be a net benefit to the world
It won’t be, because it’s just another Twitter.
Lol, correct.
But Elon loses more money and we don't have to hear about him or Twitter as much
Old twitter was bad, modern twitter pays to show everyone bigoted propaganda and actively courts Nazis. Mastodon is better, but most don’t want the inconveniences. So yeah blue sky it is
It feels like the Twitter from just before Elon when it was still bad but not terrible, I was hoping it would be more like the Twitter from 10+ years ago when it was still reasonable.
I waited 4 months for my invite, took a look around and went back to Mastodon.
You'd have to go back 10 years for that, modern discourse is poisoned, and even then things weren't that rosy back then for all.
Not sure what you mean there.
I mean if you wanted anything like what you had 10 years ago you'd have to go back 10 years. I don't think it's possible to ever have anything like what it was back again any time soon.
Mastodon's AGPL license will always be better though
I'm on Lemmy, I'm already sold on the fediverse idea, even though I haven't read the AGPL license :)
Yeah I’m going to support the movement as long as Trump will not appear on it.
Not comparable, one is centered around people and the other around topics
lmk when they bother to federate.
otherwise it’s just a worse twitter.
Aaaand keyword blocked. Tired of this VC shit showing up on my feed.
Eh, I like seeing it. I'm not going to use Bluesky or anything similar, but I think it's important to stay informed. People are going to talk about it, and if it blows up, it'll become politically relevant.
I signed up few days ago, but I learned that I still don't care about twitter style platforms. I prefer Reddit like platforms where the focus lies on the subject instead of the person.
Yup, Mastodon never appealed to me, I think I made like 10 tweets total (mostly for promotions of some kind), and I bailed on Facebook when I realized I got no value from it.
But Reddit immediately appealed to me, and Lemmy is good enough.
I kinda get the „this person seems nice/knowledgeable“ but still have issues with the shallowness of conversations, self proclaimed „experts“ and ungodly long and boring posts some of the instances allow for.
For some reason, lemmy allows for even longer posts but here they arent that long and if they are, they’re often structured/formatted, concise and informative instead of just a stream of conciousness.
I feel like twitter-likes need fast, relevant, whitty answers while redditlikes need thought out, deep answers like a forum.
Anyone else feel like this?
I signed up and so far my feed seems to be dominated by a lot of bird pics. I guess that's fitting for a site called bluesky?
I just wish it supported hashtags, the feeds thing it has going on feels clumsy. Sticking to Mastodon for now.
bluesky is great because - at least in my feed - it's pretty much tumblr from 2010 but also a safe haven for trans ppl :)
also book twitter - especially romance book twitter - moved over there and that was my favourite part of twitter.
sad that twitter users will jump to literally anything except mastodon. wake me up in 15 years when bluesky finishes its twitter elon musk cycle and it’ll be like i took a 12 second nap
mastodon also refused to implement basic features that make things easier like cross instance searching and quote posting and then started being rude to people asking about them when the initial exodus happened
Same thing is happening with Misskey. A lot of interesting features there that don't federate. Wonder how Bluesky is going to handle that in their protocol.
Sidenote: a lot of confidently incorrect people in the comments for this (not you). Not really getting people on-board with fedi, are they?
Jack is (or was) a muskrat fan, I'll probably migrate there when every artist that I care about starts going, but I prefer to stay here and on misskey.
I wonder how people will feel once more bluesky servers show up and it suddenly becomes "too complicated".
Signed up just to get my ID, and make sure no one else can have it.
if you have a domain you can just make your id anything you want :)
The best thing about bluesky is they have the custom feeds and now you can have your following feed include some posts from your custom feeds. So its a mix of “following” (chronological) and for you (custom feed) which is great
There’s a bridge in development that should be interesting https://www.docs.bsky.app/blog/feature-bridgyfed
Nostr is the way. I think it's going to end up with way more adoption than mastodon or bluesky. I wrote a post comparing nostr vs mastodon if anyone is curious. https://lemmy.ml/post/11570081
Great post, I was looking for a comparison of nostr and AP because it seemed like basically the same thing to me and your post explained it perfectly. After reading it, I have to agree that nostr is a better solution for the fediverse.
Glad you liked it :)
Could the Nostr protocol be incorporated into existing applications like Lemmy, Pixelfed, Mastodon etc?
I'm happy for them.