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Etherpad or Cryptpad (lemmy.ml)

submitted 9 months ago by fluffery@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Etherpad and Cryptpad are both web-office suites

etherpad focuses on the fact that you can collaborate in it

Cryptpad is onlyoffice in web

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[–] tavu@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Cryptpad:

Full-on google docs / office365 / libreoffice type replacement with collaboration.
E2EE
The complexity means it doesn't work well on mobile, takes a while to load on a slow connection, more frequent bugs. (3.5 MiB page transfer)
Self-hosting is complicated.

Etherpad:

A competent collaborative rich-text editor. Doesn't do spreadsheets or presentations or [...].
Not E2EE (you need to trust that the server a bit more).
Lightweight, works on slower connections, works alright on mobile. (1.7 MiB page transfer)
Self-hosting quite simple.

PrivateBin:

Super-simple plain-text/markdown pastebin. No editing possible once saved.
E2EE
Very small. Works fine on slow connections and mobile. (0.2 MiB page transfer)
Self-hosting very simple.

[–] fluffery@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also thanks w/ privatebin, didnt need it but thanks 👍

I think im gonna do cryptpad because it is e2ee

[–] tavu@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

To be clear though: by E2EE here I mean browser-side encryption with zero-knowledge on the server side.

Etherpad is still encrypted in transit with https; only the server can snoop.

Cryptpad and other web-based E2EE services can still be completely compromised server-side by serving malicious code to the browser, and practically the user would never know.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Didn't know I was looking for this but glad I found it, thanks for putting it together!

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What do you want this for? If the idea isn't multi-user collaboration, why not just use local tools instead of a web app?

[–] fluffery@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Multi-user collaboration, and trying to provide a whole Google suite replacement, but my use is multi-user collaboration, & sharing it without downloading (same manner you share Google docs)