If you don't show to the vote, you forfeit your vote.
Fu@k Orbán.
A community for discussing events around the World
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
If you don't show to the vote, you forfeit your vote.
Fu@k Orbán.
hey you know you can just type "fuck," nobody will get mad at you.
It is past time for both EU and NATO to get rid of him.
It is clear that he is not an ally.
Just a bit of context, Hungarian MPs of the current government have boycotted every move of the opposition in the past 14 years.
They didn't show up to any of the sessions, they didn't put any initiatives or laws on the agenda. Not one.
I would have been more surprised if they actually did show up. That would have been unprecedented.
So Hungary hasn't ratified Sweden's membership, but what does this actually mean? I know that signing a treaty means you agree to the terms and intend to sign, but that it's not yet legally binding. And then ratifying means you've dealt with your own country's process to get a new law (or whatever) in place.
But Hungary reneging on this means that the other countries cannot complete the process? Or that they all consider Sweden in but Hungary still doesn't?
Sweden is not officially in untill all member states ratify their ascention. So currently Sweden is not in
Thanks, that's what I assumed. So the ratification terms must have to include what seems to be called a "quorum" clause:
lawmakers from the ruling Fidesz party boycotted the session, meaning it lacked quorum and the ratification will be further delayed.
-- Reuters
It's not so much that the nato treaty required quorum, it's that any/most legislatures require a certain amount of members present in able to hold a vote. Imagine if you only needed one guy to show up to be able to hold a vote, there could be a lot of shenanigans
That's the quorum
Yes, but quorom isnt a rule tied to the treaty specifically, it's a rule for how all legislative bodies work
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hungary’s ruling Fidesz party has boycotted a session of parliament called by the opposition to ratify Sweden’s Nato membership, even as a group of western ambassadors arrived in the building to urge a vote.
For months, the Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán, repeatedly promised his counterparts within Nato that the country would not be last to sign off on Sweden’s membership.
The Hungarian leader then publicly promised Nato’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, that he would urge parliament to “conclude the ratification at the first possible opportunity” – only to also abandon that pledge by not showing up to a session initiated by the country’s opposition with the aim of voting on Sweden’s accession.
In a symbolic move, a group of 16 diplomatic representatives, including the American ambassador in Budapest, David Pressman, arrived at Hungary’s parliament on Monday.
“With our presence today, we wanted to show our solidarity with Sweden, and the Swedish ambassador in Budapest, in their pursuit of joining Nato in such a difficult and demanding time for the world.
“We know that Orbán considers these situations as opportunities for blackmail, but completely ignoring a parliamentary session, our allies’ requests and the security interests of Hungary is disgraceful,” said Márton Tompos, a member of the Hungarian parliament and spokesperson for the opposition Momentum party.
The original article contains 603 words, the summary contains 215 words. Saved 64%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
He didn't boycott anything. He was just too busy sucking Putin off at the time
So this was the price of the Ukrainian aid. 🫢
Here comes the Stockholm Syndrome
🍿🍿🍿