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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Body camera video equivalent to 25 million copies of “Barbie”

Literally anything but the metric system

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

it's called SEO and it's an art

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

SEO os the bane of the internet. SEO is why i have to scroll through a novella every time i want to check out a recipe

[–] maness300@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh that's so fucking annoying, but I also think it's part of the culture among those who typically submit recipes online.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

it may have started that way, but now it's all SEO

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 5 points 9 months ago

We don't even need to choose! Just use hours, months, years, decades! But no, Barbie movies.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

There is no common metric measure of time.

Edit -common

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry, can you restate that in terms of the number of ground state transitions of a Cs-136 atom?

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes it is, but SI is not all metric. Metric is fundamentally a base 10 system. Time is base 60 you can probably thank the ancient Sumerians for that but there's some debate.

At one point the French tried to make metric time a thing but it didn't stick.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Short times are always given in scales of 10 for seconds (ms, μs, ns). And long ones can be too.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And machinists in America use decimal inches, but I don't think anyone would say that inches is metric.

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[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Body camera video equivalent of 25 million copies of "Barbie"

Is this a typical unit of measurement in journalism? Like what even is this? Crappy in-article advertising? Some weird SEO shit? An odd attempt to be cool and hip?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's America; anything but metric.

[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And which "metric" unit of time measurement do you prefer?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I prefer seconds since 00:00:00 on Jan 1st, 1970

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the metric measurement of time. My favorite.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Your point? It's still not really a valid comment. Just a braindead joke that's played out even when it's actually relevant lol

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 5 points 9 months ago
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

It's the kind of phrasing you use when you're paid for how long an article is, but not how good it is.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 31 points 9 months ago

That sounds like a big investment to find no wrongdoing by officers.

[–] OmnislashIsACloudApp@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

oh great I'm sure the training for this will not result in a bunch of things getting "reviewed" and no one being responsible for mistakes at all...

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago

Sounds like humans, so I guess it's AI progress? :p

[–] terminhell@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What if all the cam footage was just uploaded to something like YouTube. Publicly visible by ya know, the very citizens that pay for it and work for...

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be a huge privacy issue?

[–] lir@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The police are already a huge rights issue when they're acting without oversight

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That feels like it would be a logistics and a just in general nightmare. Does every single individual have an account where they're forced to stream their footage? If not and it's all being uploaded to a single channel for a department, who's in charge of the task of uploading the footage? Who'd even be willing to spend their days doing nothing but uploading footage when your departments internal internet connection comes to a crawl speed because of the person(s) who has/have to upload the footage (because you just know they certainly ain't paying for them to have their own private network for this in most areas)?

In theory it sounds great but in practice it just sounds like a nightmare. Not defending the police but it just doesn't seem like a task they'd be willing to take up because of all the work they'd have to put in to make sure it works.

That, and the money they spend doing something like this could obviously be used on something more pressing, like shooting a black man because he didn't get down on the ground and worship the boots of the officer that killed him after being pulled over on suspicion of absolutely nothing (/s on this part)

[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

If they ain't up to the task, then they could just quit. I don't see the problem.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Ah, good. I had "racist profiling ~~AI~~LLM" on my 2024 bingo card

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

Yes, because AI has a firm grasp on nuanced topics like law enforcement and civilian/human rights...

You may as well play the video to an empty room.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

ITT: People who are scared of things they don't understand, which in this case is AI.

In this case, the "AI" program is nothing more than pattern recognition software setting a timestamp where it believes there's something to be looked at. Then an officer can take a look.

It saves so much time, and it filters out anything irrelevant. But be careful because it's labelled "AI". Scarry.

EDIT: Comments to this comment confirms that you don't understand AI, because if you did, you'd know that this system who scans video is not a LLM (large language model). It's not even the same system in its core.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This is an astonishingly bad take.

Almost every AI system is a black box. Even if you open source the code and the training data, it's almost impossible to know anything about the current state of a machine learning model.

So the entire premise here is that a completely unaccountable system - whose decisions are basically impossible to understand or scrutinize - gets to decide what data is or isn't relevant.

When an AI says "No crime spotted here", who gets to even know that it did that? If a human is reviewing all of the footage, then why have the AI? You're doing the same amount of human work anyway. So as soon as you introduce this system, you remove a huge amount of human oversight, and replace it with decisions that dramatically affect human lives - that could potentially be life or death if it's the difference between a bad cop being taken off the street or not - being made by a completely unaccountable system.

Whose to say if the training data fed into this system results in it, say, becoming effectively blind to police violence against black people?

And if that doesn't scare you, it absolutely should.

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not impossible to understand or scrutinize. They give it specific things to look for. It does what it's told. You can make the argument that ANY tool used by the police will be misused in their favor. AI isn't special for that by any means. It's not like we bother to hold anyone accountable for anything else now anyway. Maybe the AI will be less biased

It's definitely not doing the same work as a human if humans are spared sifting through hours upon hours of less useful footage. I'm sure they're testing it etc. Nobody goes all in on this stuff. Really, you guys can be so very dramatic lol

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 10 points 9 months ago

It's also potentially skipping some of the parts that should be looked at. It depends on the training set.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

It's not that AI is scary, it's that AI is dumb as fuck.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

And I'm sure the criminal acts by police will get filtered out.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

I wonder if it's one of those AI that can't see darker skin colors...

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"our Pig AI System searched all of the videos. No cop did anything wrong. Ever. The End" ~cop fucks

(Fuck this shit. As usual. Abolish police)

[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So funny thing, Seattle Police Department did a pilot for AI that did sentiment analysis on police audio and looked for things like racial slurs. They pretty quickly disbanded the project and destroyed the evidence.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/decision-to-halt-program-analyzing-seattle-police-bodycam-video-under-scrutiny/

(IIRC some folks requested info from the pilot and they claimed to have deleted it.)