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I'm stuck on this personally. I love my manual, I have a tiny little Mazda 2 and I have driven that thing absolutely everywhere because I can control it better than any automatic I've ever driven. But I've been casually looking for a new car and I'd love to have an electric, but I don't want to lose that level of control and everything I love about a manual.

What do you all think? What's your take?

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[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I bought a hybrid honda civic last year which only has one gear, so no point in having manual transmission. Don't really miss it, although I always liked the extra control stick gives.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44211128/toyota-prototype-ev-sports-car-manual-transmission/

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/features/electric-manual-transmission

There are also a couple guys in Los Angeles that have been tinkering with converting older cars into EVs and some are made manual transmission as well

I kinda want to get an old 1986 SAAb 900 SPG and convert it to a manual EV

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Where I am, manuals have been difficult to get for the last few decades, so I gave it up. Actually I gave it up after spending too many hours sitting in traffic in a tunnel under Boston Harbor. Manuals may be a more satisfying driving experience but they sure became a hassle to find and to use

Since then, I’ve learned to appreciate other technologies for what they are. I’ll probably never like the traditional American land yacht automatic designed to just be cushy but there are plenty of sports sedans with outstanding, responsive automatics. I’ve also grown to appreciate the CVT in my Subaru: it’s a nice steady pull that is just always there and ready (CVTs got a bad name from from underpowered cars when the technology was new). But now I have a Tesla and wow! The instant torque and acceleration from any speed are out of this world , and the lack of engine noise makes it feel effortless. I’ll always love to feel the rumble of a big V8, but now it feels quaint, like that really cool steam engine in a museum. All that sound and fury, signifying nothing but noise and pollution.

Realistically the only transmission I hate (aside from traditional American land yacht automatics) is the fakes. Let me appreciate the transmission for what it does well, but when you add artificial shift points and fake noises, I’ll have none of that. I love my Subaru CVT but newer models have fake shift points, so no

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I've had several manual cars including 1998 Chevy Tracker (first car) 2017 Ford Fiesta ST (traded for a Lincoln towncar of all things) 1991 Ford F250 (still have)

I daily an electric Fiat 500, it's fine. I will say that when I hop on my motorcycle and bang through the gears it's briefly exciting but still slower/same speed as the lil Fiat.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Electric > manual > automatic.

Manual's only advantage over automatic is better control over shifting for staying in the power band or downshifting for long slopes. A proper CVT electric can always have the optimal power band for the speed and regenerative braking takes care of the long slopes.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Just no? C'mon my friend, be casual.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Only if its a hybrid that uses capacitors and a high output engine that only charges the capacitors.

So you get like 30-60 seconds of continuous insane power that you can put to the wheels, but after that the engine has to recharge the capacitors and provide enough to barely accelerate at the speed of like a a big semi without a hefty engine.

The trick is since you're not always doing WOT, you can effectively get ridiculous performance and really good MPG so long as you treat your capacitors like a boost meter that recharges.

Regular hybrids already do this, but they use normal Li batteries which usually requires that the engine also be able to directly power the wheels which adds complexity and cost.

It's kind of like how the ships works in Elite Dangerous lol.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If an electric vehicle:

  • Wasn't an SUV or CUV
  • Didn't have a giant touchscreen with a Big Brother OS
  • Didn't cost over $40,000 for a good one

I'd buy one. As it stands I'm buying a used GTI tomorrow, mainly because it's a stick shift and I miss that, and also because my GF got a job and needs to use my other car to commute. It's basically the car I've wanted since I was sixteen so I'm pretty stoked.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

We have a 2013 Leaf. Cost us $8k seven years ago, battery's as good as it ever was, great around town or commuter for a 50 mile round trip commute (longer without defrost the whole way). Seriously the most fun car I've driven since our old manual bmw. The newer ones have bigger batteries if you drive more each day.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Used Polestar 2 fits except for the screen.

They might do well with a “classic” version with less tech inside.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can I get one for under $12k. Because that’s what I’m getting my GTI for.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Na more like 35k for a 2022.

But you just moved the goalpost from 40k to 12k 🤔

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