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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the argument for .ml domain has always been absurd to begin with. So it's free but the price you pay is that it's being run by Mali. I'd just drop 8$/year tbh, that's not a hill you want to die for. Also you harm your project by being SEO punished for using spam-associated TLDs like this. One of the reasons original Lemmy took so long to adopt until Reddit's API drama. Pretty dumb ngl.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If i remember right it was also "free to register but insanely expensive to renew once they start to see traffic"

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Renewal costs are my primary consideration when picking domains. Subscription fees is how your money disappears when you're not looking.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyone know how companies get the rights to domains to sell in the first place? Do they literally submit a list of all domains to ICANN or something? Sorry if this is a stupid question, I just never understood how any of this really works.

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[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hi, professional DNS engineer here! if anyone has any questions about the inner workings of DNS or top level domains, ask away! (THIS IS MY MOMENT)

[–] IntangibleSloth@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] jmanjones@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

When I was talking my cyber security / ethical hacking class, we learned how to do zone transfer. The concept never stuck and I basically "copy" from my friend. So what exactly is a DNS Zone Transfer?

[–] sol87@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that sounds like my dream job, unfortunately this issue in particular is more of a Lemmy problem, not a DNS problem. See: https://lemmy.nrd.li/comment/190200 for the explanation of why you cant just transfer domains with Lemmy.

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also, if you're genuinely interested in this field, first you should enter the world of enterprise network engineering. Get Security +, CCNA, and PCNSA. With those certs in hand (and knowledge in your brain), apply to jobs as a network support engineer. Do the work for a few years. Learn BIND. Learn Infoblox. Focus on learning DHCP and subnetting. Learn DNSSEC & IPv6. Experiment with a Pi Hole. Set up a home lab. Apply to jobs with DNS. Start living the good life. This takes about 10 years if you learn fast and are good at interviews.

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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Link to the actual post OP screenshotted: https://very.bignutty.xyz/notes/9hf13it1ced3b2za

Screenshots of text are not the way. The crappy “hey, a text thing I want to share, let me take an accessibility-poisoning screenshot and upload that graphic file like a psychopath instead of just copy/pasting either the link to the text or the text itself like a decent human being” routine needs to die with Reddit, we have to be better than that here.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At the least, put the screenshot and the link in the post. We can do both, people.

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[–] blockhouse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Mali government taking control of the .ml tld probably has something to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of US military emails have been accidentally sent to Mali by users who type .ml instead of .mil in the address field.

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[–] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are gone? So sad.

Anyway.

[–] Aldrond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, it seems the tankies are gonna tank right on (over the bodies of students).

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[–] vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Using .ml was stupid in the first place. No need to try to be a special snowflake by using a sketchy TLD.

[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But- But- But the memes of a Marxist-Leninist instance!!1!

[–] RFBurns@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder if it was done on purpose after it came out that the Pentagon had typo'd ".ml" instead of '.mil' and exposed a lot of sensitive emails...

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[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well kinda feels like my house burned down.

Hopefully the push towards some kind of direct migration comes on the feels of this.

[–] CMahaff@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

FYI I have made a tool that can backup / copy your account settings, subscriptions, and blocks to a new account: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

There are others out there as well if you look.

Obviously the loss of .ml communities would still be catastrophic to Lemmy, but at least your new account won't start from ground-zero, and you can be less effected by downtime by having 2 accounts with the same subscriptions.

[–] Gamey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The domain bs is a interesting case of scummy practices in general, .tv was missused in a similar way with awful contracts, essentially scamming a already increadably poor country!

[–] db2@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This brings a disturbing thought to mind.. if an instance domain name like foo.bar lapses and someone else snaps the domain up (or of it gets stolen) can the new controller plop Lemmy on a server and be instantly federated? If so what kind of damage could they do?

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

No, the signatures wouldn't match.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why you don't let your domain registration lapse. It's not the only way computers on the internet verify each other's identity, but a hell of a lot of internet security features are based around domain names, so keeping yours functioning is a very big deal.

[–] baascus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Domain registration ≠ internet security. Root of trust is in cryptographic keys, not domains. DNS is not the security cornerstone you make it out to be. PKI says hi!

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