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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 84 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's a quick way to get Facebook banned from both platforms

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 57 points 9 months ago

Apple and Google: “Consider yourself managed.”

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I had the same reaction, but then... Do you think they care?

They're probably the most installed application worldwide. Definitely the most installed social media application worldwide.

I just googled it, and the top result was Facebook, and then Instagram. If that's correct, "fucking go right ahead, I guess? Kick me off your platforms. I already dominated both of them." -zuck, probably.

[–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

FB is dependent on Android and iOS, not the other way around.

[–] kusuriya@infosec.pub 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I doubt that would be even close to his response right now. He tried to do some level of that with Apple's upgrades to privacy that allowed you to neuter apps basically. He thought he would get an exception because we are Facebook we will just pull out!

What he got instead was a line in a investor call talking about how the changes in apple's privacy and transparency rules took a bigger bite out of revenue than expected because it turns out when asked if you want to be tracked people almost always said no

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Consider that result if apple and google suddenly yanked the app off the store, within 5 years facebook wouldnt exist on mobile devices.

Sigh i can dream

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're probably the most installed application worldwide. Definitely the most installed social media application worldwide

Of course they are. Facebook comes pre-installed with no way to actually uninstall it.

[–] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Which phone do you use ? (If you are comfortable with sharing).

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

"Google and Apple should manage consent, but let me manage payments directly so I don't have to pay them."

[–] londos@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What if they access FB from a browser?

[–] rmean@feddit.de 38 points 9 months ago

Then it's obviously Googles, Microsofts, Mozillas or whoevers job.. but certainly not Metas!

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Don't be silly. Kids don't know how to use a computer.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

As a non-user of anything Facebook… I’m astounded people trust their apps. The data hoovering is tiktok level.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Misleading headline. I watched the hearing, what he said was that parental controls should be centralized by Apple/Google at the app store level. To simplify the process so that parents can cut access to apps for their kids without needing to manage parental controls for a bunch of apps

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What is sad is this already can be done, but parents are either not educated in the process of how or don't care enough to.

[–] V0lD@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let's be real here, it's the second one

[–] brunofin@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately yes. From my 3rd grade daughter's class she the only one with parental controls turned on on her phone. The amount of time and the things those kids see and do on the internet with unrestricted access at this age is mentally unhealthy and they are just not ready for that. Unfortunately because of that it also means I can't fully prevent her from being exposed to that in the classroom.

[–] ButtDrugs@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Jesus christ 3rd graders with phones.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Ok, what about the website tho, bud? Why can’t that carry over to the app? Eh?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Facebook does not deserve a special exemption from laws to protect children.

He’s trying to have all the ad revenue and none of the responsibility.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

He wants to sell kids attention to his customers. They are they easiest group to advertise to. They are super impressionable and not rational. This makes them valuable to meta.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

There's so many things wrong with this I just don't even know where to begin.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

This is a hack.

Not only will they save money on developing the functions, but it effectively sidesteps regulations by allowing kids to access adult material on their platform from another device without parental control.

It's basically a "have your cake and eat it too" position. We can only speculate that Zuckerbot 3000 wants an in to exploit kids.

[–] wellee@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop, what is going on that children are seeing that's not okay?

Don't they have to be 13 for facebook anyway? And there's already a Google safesearch. Isn't it the parents job to monitor the kids? I really dont get what this fuss is about.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

What about the porn that got posted in facebook groups and comments?

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Accountability is overrated…

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In today’s online safety hearing, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg again pushed back at the idea that businesses like his should be responsible for managing parental consent systems for kids’ use of social media apps, like Facebook and Instagram.

Last November, the company introduced a proposal that argued that Apple and Google should do more with regard to kids’ and teens’ safety by requiring parental approval when users aged 13 to 15 download certain apps.

In other words, Meta wants to ensure that the playing field between it and its competitors remains level, despite the massive size of its social networking services, which, combined, are used by 3.14 billion people daily, as of the company’s Q3 2023 earnings announced in October.

“So it should be pretty trivial to pass a law that requires them to make it so parents have control anytime a child downloads an app and offers consent to that,” he said.

“I think that’s the type of legislation, in addition to some of the other ideas that you all have, that would make this a lot easier for parents,” Zuckerberg added.

With this, consumers could request apps not to track them, hurting Meta’s advertising business and revenues.


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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He's correct. Apple and google should be the one looking after Facebook.

Edit: let's make these companies fight , that's how we'll win.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago

It is you failing to engage in the conversation.

You're off having a different conversation. I have no obligation to partake. You can stay on topic or fart to the wind. Idgaf.