If you say “France” or “dance” in a way that rhymes with “aunts”, you will open yourself up to merciless ribbing, with people affecting a posh English “oh I say old chap” accent every time you’re around. Far better to play up the Aussie drawl (and if in doubt, shorten a few words by replacing the last vowel with “-o”) to leave no doubt that you’re a true-blue dinky-di Aussie whose ancestors were transported for stealing a loaf of bread rather than someone who’d rather be wearing a top hat and sipping a Pimm’s.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you say aunts the same way so say pants, then it's both.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As far as I’m aware, that pronunciation of aunts is never used by Australians.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

I pronounce it like that

[–] white_shotgun@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

France.... Pants

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Across Australia, linguists are revolutionising the understanding of how Aussies' voices differ from one another, fuelling new insights into what was once thought to be a monolithic accent.

In a 2023 research paper, Debbie Loakes and other linguists at the University of Melbourne found the Victorian habit of pronouncing "el" and "al" the same way (eg "celery" becomes "salary") was dying out among young people in the state's north, but persisting in the south.

Dr Loakes says linguists used to think younger Australians were trending away from the broad and cultivated accents toward a more general voice, but that recent work suggests the changes are more complicated.

ABC listeners may be familiar with the archetypal cadence and tone of Australia's national broadcaster, which certainly falls into the cultivated accent camp.

However, listening to archival recordings makes it clear that the "ABC accent" is far milder today than it was just a few decades ago, and many presenters actively reject it.

Despite recognising that people perceive varieties of Australian English differently, linguists have shied away from classifying them as separate accents.

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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How you says words ain’t important.

What matters if you says parma and potato cake or if you’re wrong.

[–] jagungal@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

or if you're wrong

Imagine having this level of self confidence. It's a potato scallop ya ~~nonce~~ eejit

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Jesus fuck mate, that’s really uncalled for.

[–] ajsadauskas@aus.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@Marsupial @jagungal That escalated quickly 😳

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t appreciate being called a child molestor.

[–] jagungal@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck, sorry mate. Didn't realise that's what it meant. I've only heard it used as an old equivalent for "idiot". Only wanted to have some banter.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That’s dunce, ya dunce!

Edit: or nong. Don’t make a portmanteau of them.

All good.

[–] Octarine@wig.gl 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@Marsupial @jagungal now I'm curious if this is a misunderstanding about the regional differences of the word "nonce".

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 9 months ago

I googled it and didn’t find another usage of it.

Unless they meant dunce?

[+] Zagorath@aussie.zone -11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Parma or parmi is irrelevant because it's a trash food for people with no taste.

Potato cake sounds more like an alternative name for potato bake than it does for potato scallop.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ain’t nothing wrong with comfort food.

Not everything needs to be a bougie deconstructed h2o dish.

[+] Zagorath@aussie.zone -8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The problem isn't that it's low class (most of the best food is, IMO). The problem is that it tastes terrible.

I've never been at a restaurant with someone who ordered the parmi and not heard them complain that it's "too dry". No, that's just what parmi is like. It has to be smothered in sauce to even be edible.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So make it at home. For me the chicken is merely a vessel to carry the sauce and crispy cheese.

[–] ajsadauskas@aus.social 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@Marsupial @Zagorath
Sounds to me like you just haven't had a good one?

If not, I'd strongly recommend trying the highest-rated parmas here: https://parma.com.au/

Because the truth is that there's a world of difference between a great Parma and a mediocre one.

A good quality schnitzel should need no topping. If it's dry, that's half the problem right there. And yes, such schnitzels do exist — just ask the Germans and the Austrians.

Ideally, the pub or restaurant menu should offer a pasta with Napoli sauce or margherita pizza. Why? Because the sauce should be flavourful enough to stand on its own.

Now, take that schnitty that stands on its own, add a quality Napoli that carries a dish on its own, with a premium ham and cheese, and you end up with something that's greater than the sum of its parts.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 9 months ago

I’m impressed there’s a whole site dedicated to this . I’ll have to try one of these out!

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

The only incorrect implementation of Australian-style Chicken Parmigiana is one where the chicken is not schnitzel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnitzel

Since every Pub and Restaurant serves some sort of Parmigiana (even the Vegan ones -Eggplant and Vegan Cheese) are acceptable substitutes), it is a good way to determine if the food is any good. Of course since Eggplant and Vegan Cheese always tastes terrible, Vegan Restaurants and Pubs are proof to this rule.

If you order a Parma at a dodgy pub and it is terrible, you can be happy that you didn’t order anything more complicated.

A whole, un-tenderised chicken breast, covered in a spattering of breadcrumbs, a slice of Devon, pizza sauce and some tasty cheese is not a Parmigiana, even though it is often served as one.

That said, the best tasting Parma I have ever had was at a local industrial estate café. It was a deep-fried schnitzel with a slice of sandwich leg-ham, left-over Bolognese (with the meaty bits and onion strained out) and shredded pizza-blend, on a bed of takeaway-shop chips and a salad consisting of fist-fulls of random vegetables from the salad bar.

[–] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

Blasphemy.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Potato Scallop refers to either a Potato Scallopine or Hassalback Potatoes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaloppine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasselback_potatoes

It has nothing to with a deep-fried, battered slice of root vegetable, sprinkled with offensive amounts of chicken salt.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Not if you call it “Lightly Panko crumbed oven baked Delatite Chicken Breast with smoked ham, Napoli sauce & Mozzerella cheese with your choice of two sides.”

Sorry for the quality of the photo, it was taken in a “lightly fried beer and flour battered, thinly sliced potato”

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago

‘Franky’

It’s pronounced ’Franky’.

Isn’t it?

[–] Glasnozt@aus.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@Zagorath by the way you say graph, I'll know where you're *not* from. I love Alan Kohler but every time he says graph, I flinch

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Personally I say graph with [ɑː], but there's something about the way Kohler says it that sounds more palatable than the American /æ/. I'm not really sure what it is.

[–] white_shotgun@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

What about "get a yabby up ya"? Is it yarby or yabby

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

It's not a true rhyme with either of them.

[–] fatboy@fosstodon.org 1 points 9 months ago

@Zagorath shrimp on the barbie