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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 123 points 9 months ago (5 children)

those tables usually are wrong or misleading, i don't like them.

Edge for example has the 3rd party cookie blocking and it works ok, so why it's "no" and not "somewhat" or similar?

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I dont see the line "3rd party cookie blocking"

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

should be "prevent sites from tracking". Or they carefully chose that sentence in order to give a "no" to edge and "somewhat" to chrome and opera

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 9 months ago

Firefox uses a built-in domain blocklist for tracking protection, in addition to blocking third party cookies

Although that would not explain why Chrome and Opera pass that at all to begin with IMO. Maybe these browsers enforce their own additional data silos or other deviations from specs when in Private Browsing mode. I know Chrome for example shrinks the storage provision for various JS APIs down to practically nothing when in Incognito mode, which can break things like Teams Web etc when you start sharing files.

Either way though all marketing ever is, is just a selection of carefully chosen words. In this case, browsers too, as there's no Brave there (I'm not a fan of Brave anyway, but worth noting)

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Precisely why these "feature comparisons" are bogus.

It's this.

Firefox' total cookie protection does not block third party cookies, it isolates them in separate jars for each website....

Total Cookie Protection works by creating a separate β€œcookie jar” for each website you visit. Instead of allowing trackers to link up your behavior on multiple sites, they just get to see behavior on individual sites. Any time a website, or third-party content embedded in a website, deposits a cookie in your browser, that cookie is confined to the cookie jar assigned to only that website. No other websites can reach into the cookie jars that don’t belong to them and find out what the other websites’ cookies know about you β€” giving you freedom from invasive ads and reducing the amount of information companies gather about you.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

The 'Enforce users choice' is just GPC on by default I believe. Which means nothing since it is still voluntary.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago

By that logic Linux supports windows because I can run it using wine.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah I’m confused about what tracking Chrome blocks that Chredge does not.

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does it, though? Or does Microsoft come under the second party label

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

if i enable it, most websites don't load ads at all, including MSN news that's ad-ridden

[–] Walop@sopuli.xyz 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I like using Firefox, but it's a bit ironic to have google analytics tracking on the page you declare to protect the users privacy.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They never claimed firefox.com was privacy focused. Only your browser.

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Just doesn't sit well But at least it's open source

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I didn't get that but I guess because I have a plugin to give me nice backgrounds on new tabs.

But yeah, shots fired. Nice!

The only issue is that only already existing Firefox users see this, and we already know this.

[–] TeaEarlGrayHot@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] waz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

True, but I can share it with friends who already think I'm weird because I use Linux and they can have another reason why they think I am weird.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

i probably had it but closed the tab before it loaded

[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What's the extension for nice backgrounds on new tabs?

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[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Every brother has one of these on their site, and somehow that browser always wins

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

So does Simplex Chat.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Im just over here using firefox since it was still netscape navigator 2.0.

Another update? Okay

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

They need to add a row for ~~"Owned by a foreign superpower"~~"Owned by the Chinese government" and a check for Opera.

[–] svgeesus@mastodon.social 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

@DannyMac @Napain They are all owned by foreign powers.
Oh, your definition of "foreign" is non-US?

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Everyone knows the world is divided into:

  • United States
  • Everyone Else
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

How is Mozilla owned by the US government?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On one hand, yeah. On the other hand, that could be a point in its favor, depending on your threat model. After all, if you're American, China can't prosecute you for secrets it learns from Opera the way the FBI could prosecute you for secrets it learns from Google.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

On the third hand it's pointless cause they all buy each other's data anyways.

[–] Vrtrx@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I don't see the reason they put that there. I already own Firefox why are you trying to win me over?

[–] tcrash@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

For the newbies

[–] simin@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

be sure to run on top of linux otherwise...

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