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i've only ever seen VW amaroks, these are already pointlessly huge.

Dude these things struggle to fit in American cities! My mother in law was taking my wife and I to a concert in Chicago and last second we had to change plans and drive our car because hers was too big to park in our reserved parking space. My small crossover which is tiny by rural farming community standards was a tight squeeze. Her truck also took up literally half of our 3.5 car wide driveway (my house is a former rental)

I mean, this is a factor I'm sure, but the reality is people want the big trucks. The big trucks sell. That's the major factor. If this were the real reason the EV trucks would be small, right? Well they're not, they're gigantic. You can hava long and wide wheelbase without a 5 person cab, you can have an extended bed. You can have a long and wide wheelbase without a giant front end you can't see over. The footprint doesn't mandate a tall, luxurious cab.

Yeah, blame the governmental entity that gets its hands tied behind its back by protectionist lobbyists and corrupt Supreme Court Justices, and not the the big 3 reaping the rewards. Just like the IRS and the USPS.

In the Netherlands you need to register one as a company vehicle to be able to import it which seems like it'd be a pretty sizeable limitation... yet I still see these pieces of shit everywhere, being used as personal vehicles exclusively

In my experience, everyone I know that lived in trailers were doing actual work and drove actual work trucks. Everyone I know that lived off parents money and drove to an office and never did a lick of manual work drove the big truck.

What's fucked is it wasn't even the consumers who caused the trucks to get bigger. It was poorly thought out emissions taxes. The US decided to tax car makers more for high emissions cars, but didn't tax more for large truck emissions... So the car makers decided to make the light trucks bigger instead of trying to make the emissions better. People wanting luxury is a factor, but it's not why they are nearly semi sized these days.

Just look at the first image, the truck on the left is from the Japanese market where they taxed car makers less for cars and trucks under a certain size, those trucks are used in greater abundance than American style trucks as it is more versatile. If they had the option, I'm sure a lot of consumers would choose the smaller truck. Leaving the big trucks for status symbol pricks and people who actually need a big truck for towing.

In 2011, the CAFE standards were adjusted, and fuel economy standards started being based on the vehicle's footprint. So small trucks suddenly had to have absurdly high fuel economy. At the same time, instead of having to make trucks more and more efficient every year, they can just make them bigger.

It's why the Ford Maverick base model is a hybrid. Making the hybrid the upgrade and the gas engine standard would keep Ford from meeting CAFE standards. But it's also the reason the Ford Ranger is now the size of an older F-150.

Oh it’ve very simple, they’re exempt form CAFE standards if it’s a utility vehicle. So they can build hummer esque land yachts and not have it tank the average fuel economy of their fleet.

Pavement Princess

This post isn't criticizing trucks. It's criticizing the oversized modern one's that aren't any better at work than the much smaller ones of the past.

I bring enough ice fishing gear to over night on the lake in a hut and fit it all with room to spare in a small hatchback. The idea you need a truck to do outdoorsy things is mostly propoganda.

Implying the majority of owners of those oversized things do any of those activities

I own a truck and I do not feel attacked by this.

Exactly BECAUSE it's used for hauling, I need the bed space for work, the ground clearance for personal hobbies, it's a '99 that I can keep running with recycled parts, and it's reasonably sized. I could do without the extended cab, but I didn't exactly have many options when I needed a vehicle.

Would I like to have a EVan with similar cargo space, ground clearance, and ease of maintaining/working on at home for a reasonable price? Absolutely. Unfortunately it doesn't exist yet. So I do what I can with what I have, and don't feel bad because this kind of post isn't talking about me.

It's talking about my neighbor with a spotless, lifted raptor who needs it to feel like a big strong manly man when he goes to pick up the groceries and beer, and blocks the handicap van access by parking in the stripes next to the handicap spot.

First of all fuck you,

Second I haul more sports equipment in my hatchback than most bro dozers ever do in their life.

Hell I've probably moved more construction materials than them too.

No one hates work trucks. We hate pavement princess. Trucks that are a status symbol, not work vehicles. Notice how the OPs image includes things like "same bed size" - realistically the only different work feature of the original two trucks pictured. Troll better.

Alright, so first you didn't read the post. It's about two trucks with the same bed size. However, one of the trucks is pointlessly large, to the point that it's actually harder to use it to haul things since the bed height is so much higher. A truck with a lower bed is easier to load.

Second, the vast majority of trucks are never used for anything a sedan can't do. If your bed liner doesn't have any scratches, you could have saved a lot of money and CO2 with a sedan. Hell, if you do need the cargo capacity a van (including a mini-van) can haul more cargo than a truck. A truck's advantage is that it can carry oversized loads, not a lot of cargo.

Third, if you do occasionally need a truck or other cargo carrying vehicle, it's probably cheaper to rent one the few times you need it. The amount of extra you're paying in gas and everything else will almost certainly outpace the price of a rental a few times a year it's needed.

Obviously there's still some use cases for a truck. The smaller one will be better though, and 99.9999% of US truck owners don't fit this group.

Do any kind of outdoor activity, maintain a property or mild home renovation on the regular with your sedans and we’ll see how long it takes before they look beat to shit or have mechanical issues.

Been using my Leaf to maintain my rural acre for 2 years now and the most beat up looking part of it is where my goats jumped on it the first time they saw it, and even that's just a dent in the roof

Have yet to need to rent a truck to do anything major, it's all been quite easily manageable in my little car. Should I need a bigger truck, I can rent one really easily for the time I need to use it

I've had a home for 10 years and done all of these things without a truck. My cars are in great condition. Sounds like a capability issue.

I second the others telling you to go fuck yourself. Go touch some grass instead of trolling on lemmy, or go back to Reddit.

As others have pointed out, the outdoor activities aren't that big a deal. It's homeowner shit that they're good for. Granted, I still think the full-size flagship models are pointless, mine's just a mid-size. I can transport small engine equipment (ride on mowers, snowblowers) that wouldn't fit in 99% of roofed vehicles. I can throw pavers, gravel, mulch, dirty tools, gas cans etc. in the bed without worrying about cleaning the interior or stuff getting into cracks, or noxious smells. All my plant waste from trimming and raking goes right in the bed and down to the local transfer station.

I had a spent oil jug crack in my SUV once and it took months for it not to smell like a mechanic's garage, not to mention the sludge stuck in corners that I literally could not get rid of and the permanent stain in the upholstery.