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Looking for a normie KDE distro that works out of the box and is stable without issues.

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[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 63 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Kubuntu is most normie. Its just Ubuntu but with KDE instead of Gnome. KDE Neon has the latest KDE but the update process is a mess so I can't recommend it.

Personally I use EndeavourOS with KDE and find it very easy. Updates are literally just typing yay. But I understand that Arch based distros aren't for everyone.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm using kubuntu right now. Test it out fedora for about 3 hours before I ran into a bug and went back to the KUbuntu hard drive. Normie means it just works, or at the very least googling the answer leads to good solutions. Only ubuntu has that

[–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I find that endeavor is pretty nice as someone who typically uses windows...I just can't wrap my head around not having a GUI for software installs. Like, I want to install jellyfish, but when I search for it, there were like 30 different ones to choose. Installed a package that I don't want, where do I go to find the exact name of the package and then uninstall?

It was enough to send me to kubuntu, which is what's on my laptop now. Basically only use the laptop for the web too, so likely no reason to change anything up.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, great KDE defaults - up to date - stable. Does things a bit differently than most distros but it's pretty easy to get used to.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago

That what I use, and it's perfect

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 39 points 10 months ago

openSUSE Tumbleweed. It's rolling and reliable.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Fedora KDE spin.

[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 months ago
[–] jerrythegenius@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Fedora kde spin, kubuntu (ubuntu but with kde), kde neon (kde's distro). I've never used neon or kubuntu as a daily driver (just when I was looking for a distro) although they are supposed to be quite good, but I use fedora gnome as a daily driver and fedora kde should be fairly similar. You can also use distrochooser to find a distro that suits.

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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've been using this for a few months now. It's really good. A normie might want to look in to Slowroll though for extra stability. Is Slowroll even out yet?

[–] xtapa@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

It's available, but still experimental I think.

[–] Ozy@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think fedora kde is the one you should go with.

If you go with kubuntu you'll be using snaps by default (which can be removed entirely with some tweaking) and they aren't actually good (as with the recent steam issues)

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Anything *ubuntu is not good for gaming.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

KDE Neon is pretty nice, it's probably my favorite KDE-based distro.

You can also check out:

  • Fedora KDE
  • openSUSE
  • Kubuntu
[–] samalves@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Debian 12 stable with KDE is smooth sailing

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Rolling release: openSUSE Tumbleweed Semi-annual release: Fedora KDE Spin LTS: Kubuntu (3 years), Debian (5 years), AlmaLinux (10 years)

I personally think semi-annual is where it's at. You get packages that are mostly up-to-date (and with Flatpak user-facing software is up-to-date anyway), and you don't have to fear that something will break/be incompatible with every small update.

[–] xtapa@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm running TW and it's great. If you don't want a rolling release, OpenSUSE created Slowroll, that is supposed to release major updates every one or two months, which would probably be my go to if I were to start over.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Slowroll is experimental and it's still a rolling release that tracks tumbleweed. It might be less maintenance, but not necessarily more stable in terms of bugs. I've seen some people report pretty major issues with it in the last couple months.

Leap is the version you want if stability is your priority. You can even get the tumbleweed nvidia driver if you have an Nvidia card and want the latest driver. The only os I've used that was more stable than leap was debian. But Leap is much more flexible than Debian.

[–] xtapa@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

I wasn't sure about the state of Slowroll. In terms of stability, Tumbleweed ist absolutely fine. It's the less frequent, but not super low frequent update cycle that's interesting to me. I could always just ignore updates on TW, but I've got the urge to run the updates if there are any.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Yep ! From the official documentation of tumbleweed

Who should use openSUSE Leap instead of Tumbleweed?

While every effort is made to build them, at this point there is no guarantee to have all additional modules available in openSUSE Tumbleweed like for example, VMware or VirtualBox. And while the Packman Tumbleweed Essential repository attempts to deliver them there is no guarantee they will always succeed due to the incompatibilities with the quickly advancing Linux kernel. The problems with proprietary graphics drivers are similar and there is no guarantee they will work tomorrow, even if they do today. If you don't know how to compile your own additional kernel modules and you don't wish to learn or keep a very close eye on what is being up dated, please don't use Tumbleweed.

https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Everyone is waiting for Slowroll I think.

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 10 months ago

Kubuntu is also semi-annual, but LTS releases only come every two years. Regular releases have a year and a half of support.

[–] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Fedora Kinoite, specifically the version from universal-blue.org.

It comes with all codecs (and even baked in Nvidia-driver if you want!).

Why that and not the normal (mutable) Fedora Workstation KDE spin?

  • Very simple by default. You basically only "own" your home directory, the rest is indestructible and taken care of.
  • Has less bugs due to better reproducibility, and if something major should break, you can easily roll back without any waiting time (as opposed to Tumbleweed)
  • And you can even rebase to Bazzite, a gaming distro, that's based on the uBlue KDE version, or any other spin it you want cleanly
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This. Or, nowadays secureblue Kinoite!

Its a hardened Variant of ublue kinoitr, but I tested it and especially using the "userns" variants, a lot works

  • flatpak
  • virtual machines
  • fingerprint sensor

"userns" means user namespaces, a technology used by browsers, flatpak and Podman/Docker/Toolbox/Distrobox to create Sandboxes, isolating processes. It is used by default on Fedora, so these variants are pretty much like regular Fedora.

Dont think a secure Distro is user-unfriendly. It works pretty normal, but is simply way more secure.

If you want to use Firefox or Torbrowser, install their binaries.

https://github.com/trytomakeyouprivate/Recommended-Flatpak-Apps

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[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're going to get a million answers, mostly people saying to use which distro they're currently using. In my experience, KDE works just fine on any distro that allows you to install it out of the box, so I would choose based on other attributes of the distro, such as:

  • Package manager: which are you used to?
  • Update cycle: KDE 6 is out soon, so you want something which updates often enough to get it fairly quickly (at least semiannual).
  • Stability: unless you want to have to manually maintain your system and learn how it works, avoid arch and arch-based distros. I have run it, its fine, but it's not "normie", and unless you really know what you're doing, daily driving it can be stressful. Manjaro has the same issues, but takes away some ability of the user to fix them.

For instance, I personally like Debian and apt, but I would not recommend base Debian right now, since KDE 6 is about to come out and Debian will take a loooong time to get it. I have not personally used Kubuntu, but if it gets rid of any the bloat canonical has been adding to Ubuntu lately, it sounds pretty good to me.

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[–] Beefytootz@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Kde neon isn't bad. If I'm remembering right, it's based on Ubuntu and made by the kde team

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

neon is amazing

[–] agelord@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I've had an excellent experience with endeavor OS, which can install KDE as well as some other DEs from the installation options. It's based on arch

[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Kubuntu, KDE neon, Debian with KDE.

[–] OddFed@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] maness300@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Bombastic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

MX Linux with KDE?

If you have an AMD machine it even has a "advanced hardware system" iso for high end pcs

[–] mitram2@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You have to reinstall mxlinux every time a new debian version comes out. Not really "normie" IMHO.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you really have to reinstall from scratch or is it sufficient to update the sources.list to the new Debian release and perform dist-upgrade like for Debian?

[–] mitram2@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I read their documentation yesterday, and it strongly advised a complete reinstall. While they do have a tool that eases the process of storing your setup and then recovering it on top of a new install, it's still significantly more complicated than just 'sudo apt upgrade'.

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] chillsmeit@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Normie and Arch based don't fit together in the same sentence tbh

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] backhdlp@iusearchlinux.fyi 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think immutable is normie.

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How more normie could it be? You install all graphical apps via flatpak and since flathub uses reverse domain names it's much easier to install via the store than on terminal

And want to switch to another DE? don't reinstall your whole system, just replace the base layer.

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago

Well immutable os have some limitation mainly from flatpak.

[–] DerpyPlayz18@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Fedora KDE spin. One of the easiest to use distros without all of the annoyances of Ubuntu (e.g. snaps).

[–] Fint0034@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

ArcoLinuxB KDE.

I've learned from Brodie's video that Ubuntu upload schedule is basically slightly different gnome's schedule. So, KDE with rolling releases is what I think is best.

Though IIRC the scheduling of plasma 6 onward will follow gnome's 6 month period to synchronize with bimonthly releases of distros that does it.

I'll need some input on this

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