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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Billionaires will not do this. They will make excuses about carbon footprint and sharing their private jets with their friend's cats.

Billionaires do not give. They take. And eventually they want to look like they give. So they give to what they want to appear to be.

But 99.999% of billionaires won't give away anything other than ill-informed opinions.

And anything we frame to them will be thought of in terms of:

  1. what do we know; we are not billionaires
[–] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 8 points 8 months ago

We, the billionaires, propose reducing our carbon footprint by -200%

Yup, I expect nothing good from them

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No. No volunteer bullshit.

First, Tax every dollar they make over a billion at 100%.

Second, mandated limits for all companies and products.

[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think you misspelled "million"

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

No. A billion is fine.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 22 points 8 months ago

Eliminating billionaires is the only thing worth talking about

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

Why Foxes Should Take The Lead in Guarding The Henhouse

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] flango@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 8 months ago
[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I prefer the proletariat take the lead and start cutting a little off the top of the billionaires shoulders.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's weird to me that billionaires are not actively campaigning to solve climate change.

I, personally, could happily die aged 87, on a clean planet, surrounded by family, on a small expensive boat.

Rather than at 67, on a mega yacht, in a toxic wasteland, surrounded by the bodies of dead body-guards.

It doesn't seem like a really challenging choice, to me.

It's not rocket science to see where this trend line leads. We should all cooperate to fix this shit, now, using laws and science.

[–] wanderingmeomeo@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago

Eh, they don't care precisely because they believe they have the privilege to shield themselves, and their descendants from environmental catastrophe. Luxurious fallout bulkers are built right now to do just that: protect themselves and their children from iminent threats, be it mob riots or tsunami or nuclear fallout. They don't give a shit about the rest of us, and why would they? What do they have to gain from caring about us, it's just not in their interest to do that when they could afford to survive through this and we don't. They've already won the logic of the free market in a bloodthirsty, capital-centric world then surely they earned their superiority, and their place as the true, deserving heirs of the Earth reborn. Looking through their eyes, it's just natural selection.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Rich people are never going to limit themselves. Being rich means the freedom to do whatever you want. Rich enough and you can ignore pretty much all laws.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure emissions cutting targets are a scam. Most targets are gonna fall short and CEOs will issue a bland apology. I don't think these targets were ever intended to be reached.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Anyways, now that the we let the kid in the back of the class who has no fuckin clue what reality is like…

Who’s hungry?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Billionaires are, by default, sociopaths.

This article may as well plead for help from extraterrestrial forces. They might have better luck.

[–] Octospider@lemmy.one 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires are not leaders. They are takers. They must be forced via the law, otherwise they will do nothing besides further enrich themselves beyond their already obscene levels of wealth.

[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Billionaires somehow embody both the worst behaviors of toddlers and the worst behaviors of most adults, without having any of the redeeming qualities of either.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Nice try, Boom Supersonic

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Why emissions should take the lead and declare their own billionaires cutting targets

Not quite, but it still makes more sense than the propaganda article. Unless Emissions is an activist group.