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Age verification without name and surname: this is the way to avoid minors to watch porn.

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[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's called Parental Control software.

[–] zako@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would say it is Government Parental Control, the government is your parent πŸ˜†

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 21 points 8 months ago

I know the EU is still kicking around the concept of making itself a root CA and each country an intermediate in that chain, then legally mandating the installation of that CA on all devices. This is dangerous as hell as it effectively defeats the purpose of TLS and gives the government(s) a way to decrypt all HTTPS traffic using those bogus cert chains.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You either can tell that the same certificate was used 1000000 times in one day which means they are being tracked or you don't track it and one leaked cert can be used by all the minors in Spain. So it's either useless of bad for privacy.

[–] JackSkellington@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So the biggest issues in Spain over the last years is kids watching porn? Really? Spain has been through a shitstorm and this is what they think of. This is just an excuse to generalise the use of digital identity certificates for all the stuff they want.

  • this isn’t even a left or right thing, since its government is an amalgamation of left parties
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago

It's a classic excuse now. Let's you do set any law.

[–] init@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

But think of the children!!

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So the govt will know who and when watches porn. lol

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago

They’ll know which adults visit porn sites without a VPN anyway.

Kids are and will be significantly more creative.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 11 points 8 months ago

When you phrase it that way, it becomes all the more obvious that it's not really about the porn.

I find tracking all individuals way more dangerous long term than the effects of unmediated internet use.

Parents should be more involved in children's digital use.

Does outlawing Marijuana stop minors from accessing it? No, I started smoking young. Does requiring an ID stop minors from drinking alcohol? I'm sure many of you will attest to underage drinking

However, tracking everyone doing everything, tracking whatever they say whatever they look at. That impacts everyone, not just minors.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The whole age verification can be done privately, secure and without the possibility to get tracked. But imho still not really a good thing to do. Parenting should still be a thing.

Same discussion can be found here https://lemmy.ml/comment/6775132

[–] catfooddispenser@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Thank you for the links to Wikipedia and identity.com on that other thread. I've yet to wrap my head around how zero-knowledge proof could work for such a basic assertion as "user is of legal age", which calls for a 0 or 1 answer. It seems very different from the examples given of polynomial computations to prove knowledge of an exponent in a complex math expression. I can't see what could prevent any client to simply lie about the answer here.

[–] montar@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Looks like another govt relying on majority that has no idea about how internet works. It won't stop kids, but pr0n sites and their partners will certainly get richer.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It is the parents job to watch their damn kids. Or force isps to include simple blocklist toggles in their supplied routers so the parents can make a decision.

[–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

We already have digital certificates to identify ourselves on government websites to access services.

Most likely the implementation will require sites to demand the cert for verification. What happens after that is the privacy creep

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Just put the porn on the government websites. Problem solved.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly what will not happen. They clearly talking about different certificate. Read the article.

[–] Sylocule@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago

I can’t because I refuse their cookies and then it’s subscription