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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The WHO never announced that the pandemic is over. People just got bored of it so they decided it was.

[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago

Not trying to be argumentative or contrarian but WHO not declaring that a pandemic is over is not really what signals the end of a pandemic (any pandemic, not just COVID). Most literature suggests that pandemics tend to end organically, once the culture(s) impacted return more or less to normal. The pandemic has been over by conventional definitions for a couple years now. That doesn't mean that COVID is less of a threat or shouldn't be taken seriously by any means. It just means that society is no longer adjusting daily life because of the threat.

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

The pandemic is over because it's now endemic.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and I'm sorry, but I really was very bored of it.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 6 points 9 months ago

As long as you’re willing to get vaccinated on occasion then being bored isn’t anything to feel sorry about.

[–] Sekrayray@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s never going to be over. It’s endemic now. Instead of Flu Season we will always have COVID and Flu Season.

[–] Tyrangle@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I was about to make this same comment, but I looked up some statistics and it seems that COVID still has a 10x hospitalization rate and 3-4x death rate among seniors as compared to seasonal flu. While it's fair to say that COVID is probably seasonal now, like the flu, I think it's important to acknowledge that it's much more dangerous. I was never one to get flu shots in the past, but COVID shots seem like a good idea. I'll probably stay home from work longer if I do catch COVID, and I'll probably wear a mask if I have to go out in public before I'm fully recovered. I think we just need to recalibrate our common sense for this new reality.

https://www.ahcancal.org/News-and-Communications/Blog/Pages/Flu-or-COVID-19---Which-is-Worse.aspx

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Between new diseases and all the smoke from entire states and provinces burning each spring and summer and the unbearable heat and cold, we're all gonna be walking around looking like sand people in a few years.

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[–] Fluke@discuss.online 7 points 9 months ago

Just want to say this is a quality comment. Thanks. Good points made.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are so many people I come across now think of this as a cold, perhaps a bad one in the worse case. They have had it at least once to 3 times so there's nothing more that can be done in their minds.

My gf has had it 2 years in a row and I've dodged it there too.

I'm being told I'm a unicorn now as I'm the only one in my circles that hasn't had it yet.

Then I see the numbers above like this and recall almost 3000 died in 9/11 and how many were so moved by those senseless deaths which lead to a million more senseless civilian deaths while domestically these Rona numbers happening weekly, and there's nothing that can be done in a way worse than the lack of action for gun violence against children.

At least there are thoughts and prayers to be applied for gun violence. We won't even think of this minimum for those that have died from Rona..

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Food for thought: you may very well have had Covid, multiple times. Plenty of people have no, or extremely minor, symptoms. My son has had Covid twice and both times his ONLY symptom was a bit of a stomach upset. We only found out he had Covid by sheer coincidence.

[–] VR20X6@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If only there were some sort of rapid covid test you could take to check instead of just headcanoning whether or not you have covid.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you don't have any symptoms, why would you use a RAT? I'm not sure what they cost where you are, but they aren't all that cheap in Australia.

[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Feels weird to dunk on someone else's healthcare system as an American, but I have a shit ton of rapid tests that the US government gave me for free.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Haha yeah but the reason we have to pay for them now is that we have 90%+ vaccination rate so Covid really isn’t a big deal here any more. The vaccines are free. The RATs were also free until a year ago.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

As someone working in a public place, I used the ten they gave me already (they only did it once iirc). Where do I stock up on these other shit ton of free tests? I had to pay out of pocket the last four, and that gets fucking expensive.

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[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

I'm one of those who have extremely mild symptom. Just one. A minor sore throat. No mucus build up, no coughing, no fever, etc etc. In my line of work it's not terribly uncommon to finish a random day with heavy circular saw use and have worse symptoms than covid (for me). I consider myself very lucky but it sure was strange when my job site all got it and I was seemingly unaffected.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

I've wondered that. Thankfully I've not tested positive at work the first year and neither time the gf was sick. We get plenty of free rest kits still up here so we usually test at the sign of anything. I think that's how I've been able to avoid getting it with the gf as she has been religious about testing right away at the first sign of a tickle.

But still if neither of us are sick or showing symptoms we don't test so it could have come and gone without knowing.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"The highest since January 2023"

January 2023:

Sauce

[–] Screamium@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bear in mind those are death counts. The variants have become less deadly but that doesn't mean they're harmless

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I mean, no disease will never not be lethal, but that is considerable better than it was.

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[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I am in no way denying this claim, I just dont find stating that this time of year is the highest since this time of year last year *to be a compelling claim. While perfectly true, it doesnt convey anything mwaningful to me, as it seems that common diseases such as cold and flu are always on seasonal variations, so you would expect the peak seasons to be regular each year. I think communication on an issue like this needs to be both speciic and careful to consider that cultural expectations of diseases could lessen the impact if what is being said here.

edit:spelling and grammar

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

This seems to be the same Twitter account that said the Palestine marches in DC and London had a million people combined when every article seemed to describe the attendance as "thousands".

I'm sceptical of all their claims now.

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[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Yeah but people are over it. No more shutdowns. Covid isn't going away ever.

[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately there are way too many people who not only refuse to accept that but who will also actively resist any attempts to control this or any future pandemic

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[–] mydude@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder, how many of these people were homeless and could easily been prevented just with some human decency, housing them and given them basic medical care.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I only got it when I was put in jail for shit I didn't do. They made me catch COVID when I otherwise wouldn't have because I already self isolate to the extreme.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I am saddened for those that die despite doing everything that they can to prevent it. The vaccine doesn't always work. Some people can't get it for legitimate health reasons (as opposed to the illegitimate excuses some people use). Etc.

Call me cold hearted, but with the exception of the minority of people meeting the above criteria, I can't help but imagine that most of the people dying of COVID at this point are willfully ignorant Trumpets taking one for their team. Good riddance to them. That's one less ballot we need to worry about in November.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The vaccine does work. Vaccines aren't a silver bullet "you'll never catch this disease now" solution. They simply mitigate the harmful effects of the virus and reduce your chances of contracting it.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

A lot of vaccines prevent you from becoming sick. With that in mind they work in a way but aren't very good. Better than nothing for sure.

Yup, the only good thing Trump has ever done was killing off a ton of his cult members.

[–] calypsopub@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to see the data broken out by comorbidities, vaccination status, etc. so we can understand the risks - is it mostly elderly? Immunocompromised? Unvaccinated? Diabetics? It would be useful to have a real assessment of my personal risk of dying at this point, and whether or not I should be alarmed. For instance, if it's mostly unvaccinated people, that's sad, but I'm basically a pincushion at this point so no worries.

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[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Get vaccinated, test, mask and social distance.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I was really active about all that befor. But I've since stopped testing. I just don't feel like it matters if I have the flu or covid, it's not like I'm goint anywhere sick anyway.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago

for the US*

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Cold/Flu season is in full effect so I’m betting getting Covid with the Flu is rough.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

fuck bluesky

fuck linking to bluesky

[–] King@lemy.lol 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So? It's fucking Jack Dorsey. He's a huge piece of shit.

No lords. No masters. No billionaires.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

So do you cherry pick which masters are acceptable and which ones arent? Because you're paying a few billionaires to even be here to have this conversation right now.

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