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[–] neoman4426@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the one hand, usual formulation is you only get one question, finding out which is the liar alone is easy but useless as then you're out of questions to actually get through the gate. On the other hand, unless you get the information about the behavior of the guards from a trusted source that isn't them you have no reason to believe them, and in fact they cannot relay the setup to you accurately without giving it away if you assume they're always like that as many do.

[–] chaosTechnician@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The full setup is that they can both tell you about the setup, but for the One Question, they follow the rules stipulated. Neither is actually bound to always lie and always tell the truth outside of the One Question.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadistic DM Take - Both guards are liars and they came up with this rouse to fuck with people because they were bored.

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Both guards told the truth in their first lines

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if they were both lying. Both guards are liars.

[–] Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

Which would mean guard 2 is telling the truth and not a liar

[–] SwiggitySwole@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The way guard 2's first line is worded could be interpreted as him saying "the other (guard says) nothing but lies", meaning he's saying guard 1 is the liar which is a lie.

[–] Bananablob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guard 2 says: "The other one nothing but lies", which is assumed to be true. From the guard that lies. Was that a lie?

[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never liked this riddle. "Am I standing in front of you?" would tell you immediately

[–] chaosTechnician@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To actually make it a puzzle, the trick is that you get only one question. Ever.

[–] CileTheSane@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

The third guard stabs people who ask tricky questions.

[–] 4am@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Pedantic correction: you only get one answer from a single guard. You can't ask both for an answer, even if they're both within earshot.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

The object isn't to identify the liar, it's to find out which path is safe. And you only get one question.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not much of a riddle anyway. You ask any guard what other guard would say and then negate that.

[–] EsheLynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

the guard: [sobbing] yes...

[–] chellewalker@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if... they both only tell lies? No "one of us" about it, and it would totally mess with players' heads.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, the Yu-Gi-Oh approach.

[–] Herbstzeitlose@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[–] potoo22@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everytime I see the only truth and only lier situation, I gotta repost this clip:
https://youtu.be/i99jMtnE4vw?t=03m27s

Barbarian street smarts ain't by the book (or all that smart), but damn are they effective