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I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you've ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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[–] thefloweracidic@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Wow I applied to Cloudflare a few months ago, glad I got rejected because I was just laid off late last year.

[–] Fallenwout@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The way she handled this, she is gonna get hired by another company in an instant.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not with that video.
She'll be a hot iron for a minute

[–] v81@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only for places not worth working for. If Louis Rossmann saw this he'd probably offer her a job immediately.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My one question going in was whether this was a Sales role. It’s hard to overstate how volatile a career in sales can be. You are your numbers and your income can swing around wildly. Maybe you can control your own performance but the viability of the products is out of your control and the targets set for you to be evaluated against are outside your control too. Companies use Sales to grow, not to subsist, so the second budgets are tight and a company shifts into survival mode, you’re the first to go. Culture is also volatile and high pressure, competitive, etc. I know a sales guy who closed a multi hundred thousand dollar enterprise software deal and was missing just one signature for weeks and could not reach the guy. He travelled internationally and camped out in the building lobby for multiple days until he saw him and ran up and got him to sign.

It’s hard. You can do really well but it’s hard. She’s pretty vulnerable not having actually closed anything, ever, yet. No one actually cares at the end of the quarter if you “have great meetings.”

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As she mentioned, she only had a month in the least busy time of year to make a sale. Had her manager said anything or any available metrics indicated that her performance was insufficient, that would be one thing. To blindside her with a meeting with absolutely 0 proof of poor performance is 100% shitty management. Yeah, sometimes shit happens and the company can't keep staff, that's just capitalism. But they do morally and legally owe her the things afforded to laid off staff (especially in the case of mass layoffs). Them trying to weasel out of it shows utter disrespect for their employees, and it should be called out.

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[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This gave me PTSD to my time working in tech in San Francisco. To me, some of the larger problems with the tech world that don't get highlighted so often is how much people are completely making up what they do. I had zero experience in my industry, none. I sweet talked my way into my role and had a friend at the company put in a good word for me. A couple kudos later and I find myself managing, then running my own department. So many of the employees in many of the more ambiguous non-learned-skillset required jobs like sales, customer service, HR just found there ways into a niche and learn along the way. Unlike say a software engineer who went to school to learn how to code, I did not go to school to learn how to get screamed at on the phone and troubleshoot their tech issues. Brittany here probably didn't go to school to learn how to close deals. The people that designed her programs probably didn't set her up for success enough, and clearly, the mismanaging of new hires vs the bottom line was their fault, not hers. That said, to any young folks getting into the game, I'd say be wary of doing what she did here by recording this interaction and posting it. I know the gratification probably feels right and just in the moment, but she could have made her life a lot worse than a lost job with potential lawsuits. As mentioned above, a job is just a job and unfortunately we are all just a number to the company. You can and will get another job. Always cover your ass though.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nah, the only thing she did wrong was being a new hire. They were just firing all of the new people.

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[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Only watched her initial verbal volley and fuck that is some strength. I heard the emotion right under the surface but it was emphatically not in her voice, I'd have been shitting myself if I were on the other end of those questions

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Great video, she was right to challenge them.

A lot of people in the comments seems to be trashing HR, but they are just the messengers / bad cops, they carry out the will of the executives, who just give their goons the orders to shoot you, and walk away. If you want to look for someone to blame, look near the top.

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[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have an interview scheduled with CloudFlare for later this week. Guess what topic is going to come up.

Looks like I’ll miss this bullet. I’m still pretty happy in my current role so I’ll only jump for something spectacular.

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[–] sbonds@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
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