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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (4 children)

What I find depressing is that most of the Arab world thinks so, but the majority of people from Gaza don't.

Arab world: https://i.imgflip.com/41f829.jpg

It clearly shows that Arabs don't care about fellow Palestinians suffering, and the only thing that matters is that they fucked up lives of some Jews.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Arabs aren’t one people. They’re many different tribes. They’ve been fighting as long as the historical record. So them not caring about the Palestinians is not surprising but obvious.

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[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm curious how much help all these Arab countries were sending to the Palestinians.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Nobody hates Palestinians more than other Arabs. This was never about them, it was always about hate for Israel.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I dunno, maybe the people genociding them hate them more.

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[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Considering how the Arab world at large never agreed with the terms of Israel's conquest, this makes sense.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

In the 40s and 50s they all agreed on kicking those same Jews out of their counties, though.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And attacking Israel at the same time but still all losing so bad that Israel actually gained land.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

It does seem like some anime shit

[–] PanArab@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Israelis themselves know it but deny it. I am confident that one day sooner or later, Palestine will be liberated like Ireland, Algeria and South Africa before it.

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How the fuck did you even interview them? The governments of many Arab countries in this survey would kidnap and jail you indefinitely without trail if you support Palestine in public or on social media, and many other cave in to what they are expected to say. It's garbage in garbage out

[–] PanArab@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm surprised it is this low.

Edit: the comments are hell. But what else to except from propagandized westerners that never cared to know from Arabs.

I wish our leaders had a sense of shame or honour, instead many of them are collaborators.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not to be pedantic but I'd to clarify one aspect that not many people know.

He was right, except for one. At least from the perspective of those Muslim Arab leaders:

Our God is not theirs.

Islam is an Abrahamic religion, regarded by the Muslim as a continuation of the Abrahamic religions before it. So the muslim regard themselves as having the same god as the Jews and the Christians. Thus, the prophets of the Jewish religion (and even the prophets of the Christianity, Jesus) are also regarded as prophets in Islam. Many of them are mentioned in Quran in good faith. The main difference is the jewish doesn't recognize Muhammad as their prophet while the Muslim regards Muhammad as the last prophet in addition to those before him.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why on earth do we accept J Post articles here? It's literally Israeli propaganda.

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

To me, the crazy thing is that 33% of the Arab world doesn't think it was legitimate resistance.

The October 7th attack was clearly terrorism. But to have such a big percentage of the Arab world seem to agree with that, even in such an insanely one-sided situation as the ongoing occupation of Gaza, means:

A lot of people want peace.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Everyone wants peace for themselves and their allies. What's important is how many people want peace for the other guy too.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well, but what I'm saying is that (edit: ~~calling it terrorism~~) saying it wasn't legitimate is kind of wanting peace for the other guy too.

I'd be surprised if 33% of Americans or Israelis thought that the invasion of Gaza was illegitimate. Maybe they would though, I honestly don't know.

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[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think it is interesting how many people think there will ever be peace while Hamas is in charge, or that Hamas will ever let someone else be in charge.

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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

No doubt about that. minus some bad details .

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

resistance? Its intention was to open the doors for Israel and so it did.

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