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[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 111 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a low hanging fruit, but I mean... The tree doesn't have a lot of higher fruits, and they're not as tasty anyway.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sure we have plenty of high-hanging fruit:

  • antiquated voting laws
  • asymmetrical representation
  • oligarchy via political funding
  • military industrial complex

But we didn’t start a world war that killed millions of people, that we’re still digging up unexploded munitions from, and that gave us the ability to fix some of our governmental systems and implement social and societal change (at least for white European folks).

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But school shootings, obesity, healthcare, and oil, though.

Source: Am American.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget police murdering people and doing highway robbery.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 26 points 10 months ago

And shit trains, and pointless poverty, and ridiculous town planning, and an absurd prison system, and shit voting and representation, and unlimited money in politics, and weak-sauce unions...

[–] hdnsmbt@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I prefer bringing up that in US "democracy" some votes count more than others. When trump won, more people voted for Clinton and for some reason yanks seem to be totally ok with this.

[–] Aremel@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We are not ok with this, but changing the way it works is a herculean task. The people that it currently works for are very invested in keeping it that way.

[–] hdnsmbt@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (14 children)

But why is nobody even protesting it? Seems kind of a cornerstone of democracy, no? How could anything coming out of this system have any legitimacy?

[–] Ransack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it's easier for people to pretend already being busy (focusing on and protesting nonsensical and completely irrelevant shit) vs actually focusing on the primary and relevant things that are actually impacting their lives.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 55 points 10 months ago (22 children)

Why Americans are suddenly so touchy about their school shootings, obesity and healthcare?

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Accepting it is a low hanging fruit is the saddest thing I've read today. It's so obvious our society is fucked! Don't you have something more creative to say, dumbass?

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

7% of residential properties in the US are owned by a single corporation, America accounts for 20% of the world's prison population. The average salary of a college football coach in the US is $3,500,000, almost 60 times the average salary of a school teacher. Americas upcoming election will be fought between a barely coherent octogenarian and a proto-fascist serial fraudster & con artist.

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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine justifiably criticising a bad trait that someone has in the hopes of having them improve

Most people are going to take that as a threat because they hold that trait deer to them and / or view it as a part of a themselves

americans are likely viewing the criticism as a threat to themselves and their country and are responding with emotionally fueled responses instead of logic based responses

americans should learn to meditate because it can help with the issue of wanting to respond to percived threats emotionally

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You're speaking pretty large for an American for not being a school shooter yourself

But as an American who meditates, that is not the answer lol.

We have a bigger issue with the media trying to make us feel like everything outside is scary first. A lot of fear mongering to keep the scared gun owners to buy and advocate for more until a mentally deranged one goes too far and ruins it for everyone else. The media can now sensationalize that shooting and you get either people buying more guns or people advocating for no guns and neither side wants to hear each other anymore. It's one big crazy chain reaction loop we're stuck in and the politicians got the crazies advocating for things that would just make the politicians more money. Sigh.

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[–] S_204@lemm.ee 52 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Well ya, it's absolutely pathetic for Americans to strut around acting like they're an authority on how society should operate when theirs is an absolute dumpster fire unless you're making 500k/yr+.

Does it hurt when this is pointed out or something? If you're tired of it, maybe stop trying to swing your tiny little dick around and people won't have to constantly tell you to put it back in your pants.

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[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

When they stop being huge fucking problems, we'll stop making fun of you for them :P

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Americans when European leaders start making the same choices that got America to this point.

Happening in Canada too. For the last decade, virtually every province has been led by Conservative governments (except BC and that was just half a decade ago). Healthcare and housing has been slowly falling apart.

Looking at the polls, what’s amazing is that most Canadian voters seem to think the problem is insufficient conservatism!

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It's the worst thing about being an American expatriate is watching shit happen again.

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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (18 children)

don't forget the lack of the metric system!

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[–] DonkeyShot@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

It's low hanging because it's overweight.

[–] StreetLamp@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Americans when they don't shut the fuck up about their politics and everyone starts mocking them(we don't mock them enough)

[–] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not "America', USA only 😄

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

In England the lawyers still wear wigs. You're welcome, Lemmy. It's just as fucking stupid as you picture in your mind.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I see two memes right next to each other of Americans crying about being meme'd on...... This is why you guys are so fun to bully.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Americans are so soft. You throw shade at the Europeans by making fun of their food or wine or streets or whatever. They take a shot back and you guys whine.

Take a shot back instead of flipping the table.

[–] probablynaked@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You say that as if Americans aren’t prepared to take your invitation literally

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[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As an American I don't know what you're talking about, aside from the UK most of Europe has amazing food, and the wine there is so much better and cheaper

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[–] LemmyRefugee@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (10 children)

And at the same time, we europeans who have been in the USA (so we just don’t follow what media wants us to think) love so many things in the USA. Are the States flawed? Yes. Are Europeans country flawed too? Absolutely. I don’t like the bullying the world thing, but I’m happy I’m on ‘tesm bullying’ and not ‘team Russia’ or middle east.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

yeah, true.

-Most Americans.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

every society in the world is falling apart So it takes the edge off by mocking other countries.

except for those more civilized people up in the Nordic regions. they're doing good with the whole Utopian human rights thing.

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[–] macrocarpa@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I have a solution for the gun violence problem in schools. Print simple steps on common causes and solutions to the underlying social and mental contributors. Put these up in every door, hallway and classroom in every schools. Then these poor misguided kids would have troubleshooting.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We don't do that when America is mentioned.

We do that when America is yet again too full of itself, to keep them down a notch.

We can't help it if that is the only thing Americans do.

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[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Public transport, and bike lanes

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[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Europe is doing their best to catch up on some fronts. Keep at it, you'll get there. We'll continue sending fast food chains your way to help.

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