Why is Ubuntu getting so much hate? it was a good entrance for many people into the Linux world
this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
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It started when they started including Amazon sponsored results in the menu search really. These days using apt occasionally will install a snap package instead of a deb. It doesn't give people a good jumping on point and it teaches that linux is more difficult than it has to be.
Ubuntu's use of Snap made me go back to Arch.
Try Linux Mint
It USED to be OK. Now, it's just bloat, ads for snaps and pro features.
Is this also true for headless servers? I’ve been using Ubuntu via SSH for 15 years now and it’s always been fine for me but I’ve also never run the desktop version (for more than a few days anyway.)
I just installed it on a scavenged workstation last month to use as a media server and I didn’t notice anything unusual.
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While we’re at it, what does the hive mind think I should be using instead for turning old trash PCs into shitty servers? The only thing Lemmy has taught me so far is that Ubuntu sucks and the only truly honorable choice is to quit my job and stop speaking to my family so that I can devote my life to installing drivers on unstable Arch. Also, I’m supposed to buy some thigh-high stockings and learn to tuck apparently?
I usually use Debian for servers, which would be fine for you because Ubuntu is(was?) based on it, so it's still got apt and some other similarities.
Mint or Pop!_OS I think is the current popular non-shitty entry level OSes.
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Firefox snap doesn't work with keepassxc browser integration and smart cards randomly, so I uninstalled the default snap on ubuntu, edited configs to make sure it didnt grab snap by default, and then install the deb Firefox.
Every single fucking time I did a distro upgrade, ubuntu uninstalled deb Firefox, rwdis the configs to automatically install snap Firefox, and then reinstalled snap Firefox.
One of the reasons I left windows was because it kept changing my default browser. How is ubuntu any better?
I started my linux journey on ubuntu 11.10. I have some real nostalgia and loyalty to that platform, but I recently gave up on it and switched to fedora because of its relentless self-promotion is snap. I feel like you'd be doing a disservice to recommend it as a gateway into Linux to someone nowadays.
Oooooh, that'd really rub me the wrong way. My wife is still on a Windows PC. She'll ask my why certain changes she made get reverted, and my default answer is "Microsoft thinks it knows better than you".
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Need to use Ubuntu at work on some of the machines. Canonical distributes broken packages and has done this for years.
They do so also when the package on Debian is fine. So they take the Debian package, add breakage and release it.
Ubuntu is a pile of crap, but still better than Windows.
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Ubuntu is great. I use it on laptops, desktops, servers and IoT devices. We use it on thousands of corp workstations at my workplace too.
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Ubuntu hasn't been user friendly in a long time. Linux mint on the other hand nails it completely. I still use it in a few VMs
Ubuntu is fine as long as you avoid the default gnome. Xubuntu and kubuntu derivatives have been solid daily drivers for years now. Plenty of online support.
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Linux users are famous for e-peen measuring and tearing each other down.
We destroy ourselves. Lol
Yes, but that also kind of drives us to be better at it 🤔... kinda...
Still, I do agree, a dose of it is OK, but constantly, no.
"BE BETTER AT HAVING DIFFERENT SUBJECTIVE PREFERENCES" - some Linux guy probably
"The Pianist" (2002), btw. In case anyone didn't know and was wondering.
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I have old history with Linux and am just coming back. I did my first test build for my office to get away from the dying Windows 10/avoiding 11. I went with a basic Linux Mint cinnamon build, got our network printer and core software working. Will you let me live?
Yes, but you better be installing arch on your toaster by next week.
I went to install Arch and it did not seem easy. I opted for Cinnamon Mint.
Try Void it has an installer 😉.
Kidding, stick to Mint until you feel ready you can take a bigger bite. And do opt for the Debian Edition Mint.
Not to sound condescending, but I'd like to caution against this language. Mint is a perfectly fine OS to run permanently and never look back, and you absolutely can take a bigger bite while never having to install another OS. Distros are for the most part just a jumping off point and a set of defaults.
I agree though, LMDE stronk
I said I was kidding 😉. If he likes Mint, sure, stick to whatever rocks your boat ☺️.
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Nah, as an arch user most people don't likely need it. Mints a great option. No matter what you do with arch (even endeavor) there'll always be alot of setup, by design, and with how fast things move they'll break commonly. Like the grub issue a bit back, or the kernal that could have caused screens to die, or more recently the nvidia drivers forcing many screens to be stuck at one brightness.
I love arch, it's a testing bed for the linux ecosystem. The first place where things exit beta and interact with each other in the wild. It's definitly not what most people want for a computer though especially not for work. That's why I duel boot with OpenSuse tumbleweed for my contract work (also, separating work and regular life makes things easier but that's not relevent)
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I hope you mean LMDE mint
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Ubuntu is fine as a gateway drug imo. It hasn't made the best decisions over time though, but I appreciate it's contribution regardless.
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Me: "I use Arch btw!"
Still gets shot
Arch user! Burn him!
Why they shoot him? With ak's No, no
He need one of these
We need to make sure to get rid of them snaps
grabs gun GIVE ME BACK MY LINUX MINTS
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