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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 98 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I think you'd be able to get it in a little ways before top of the box pushes against its own lid, preventing it from going in any further. If the lid pops back open, then the top of the box will begin sticking out of the box which will likely make it too wide to fit all the way through the wall portal.

But the rules of Portal is that the portals themselves break when moved by any substantial extent anyways so in the game it would just disable the portal altogether.

[–] trainden@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But the rules of Portal is that the portals themselves break when moved by any substantial extent anyways

Except when the rules don't apply

[–] Amphobet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 10 months ago

It's the scene with the lasers innit? So many "paradoxes" are solved with the answer of "portals cannot move relative to one another," and then they do the bit with the laser. -_-

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, movement is relative. Everything on earth is constantly in motion if you're observing from any other celestial body, so motion itself can't be what breaks portals. What it might be, though, is acceleration. Those panels in the video seem to be moving at a constant speed, so aren't experiencing any substantial acceleration, making a portal on them possible

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you can say they cant move 'relative to each other', but what about the universe supposedly expanding?

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

The same reason the Earth or your body isn't expanding along with the universe - gravity is stronger than the expansion rate

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

They can move at a constant speed in a constant direction, but the acceleration would break them.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 55 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess the question becomes if one portal is in a box, what happens to the box? Does the whole process just get blocked after the first few inches as the outside of the box collides with the inside; does it push itself open; do the portals just slice though and turn the pieces of box in the way into confetti?

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Just came here to check whether someone already posted the minutephysics video.

I think their explanation is rather good for passing portals through themselves. The box doesn't add much to the equation: it is just physical objects smashed into eachother...

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I love that video.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Box moves 1 inch and the portal poofs due to an unstable surface.

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So how do you find a box that can fit a blue portal inside, but also itself fits through the orange portal; given that both portals are equal in size?

[–] kebabslob@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Duh, that makes sense

[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago
[–] yesman@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is their anything that can escape the "self referential" paradox?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago

Gödel and Russell would be very pleased. Or maybe dismayed. I'm not sure how they felt about their discoveries.

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago

It would repel or bounce the box as each portal acts as opposite like magnets.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

it just turns the cosmos inside out like a sock . Don't do it.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

I just assume as soon as one touches the other they fizzle out. I guess the top of the box gets cut a bit.

It's like folding space. They basically occupy the same location. Its just two "sides" of a 2D plane. The portal can't go into itself.

Worst case if it can it's like bottle so they just flip positions and the whole thing reverses and the box just comes right out and the colors swap.

Nothing crazy.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

you open a rift to the astral plane.

[–] JakenVeina@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Portals can only move within planes parallel to each other.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

The result is a box with a portal in it, in a box with an portal in it, in a box with an portal in it, in a box with an portal in it........∞

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Explosion :P

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Portals cannot be moved. Try putting a portal on a moving surface in the game, it disappears.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Should have used circles, like a manhole cover

[–] MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

You cant move surfaces with Portals on them

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that how Stargates work?

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The real question is what would happen if you tossed a normal size gate into an Ori supergate that were connected.

We know they CAN connect, since that's how they block the supergate from this side. And they never established whether a connected gate can move through space without losing a connection, just that you have to know where you are in space to dial out, and two gates can't activate when close together.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they establish that a ship has to stop to connect? Wasn't that a thing with Universe and the gate being ON the ship? So a gate can't be actively moving while connected, I think. My memory is a bit fuzzy. And I feel like there's still one time an exception is made, but it involves some one time use trickery.

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Gates can be moving, but not at faster than light. SG1 had the bit where they tossed an active gate into a sun to blow it up, and Atlantis had straight up orbital space gates with stabilizer rockets on them

There was some explanation about how the gates had to be calibrated to a general part of space in order to participate in the gate network which is why they couldn't use it in hyperspace. That, and probably some physics mumbo jumbo about why wormholes can't connect from within subspace or whatever

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

I think the box will pass thru

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

/c/sciencefictionmemes?

[–] Paragone@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago

THIS is what happens when you succeed in making an AI ( or Hoomin ) that can create MODERN KOANS.

You Bastard!!

: P

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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